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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have an issue of putting the starter back on my 9N. Bruce(Va)has offered some good advice,but I have had trouble responding so I'm starting a new posting. I can't quite get the starter into position to bolt in on. The teeth on the starter abut the flywheel teeth, but I can't move it sideways enough to engage it. This is the same starter I took off so I know it fit once. The hoe is egg-shaped, but I still need another 1/4 or so of movement. Any suggestions?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob,

Make the hole a little more egg-shaped.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

sound slike you have the drive in the 'engaged' position where it is sucked in close tot he starter face.. in that case, I'd either spin it back out on a wire wheel on my bench grinder or drill press, or rotate the drive a bit to try to get the teeth to line up and fall into place. They are a tough cookie to install when engaged.. but I've done it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you engage the bendix while it was off? If it has the big spring on it, it's the old style; spin it back on the wire wheel on your bench grinder. If it doesn't have the big spring, post back for help on spinning it back; I slept through that class!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bruce, both you and "soundguy" mentioned using a wire brush to spin the starter back. I can move it back by hand fairly easily. Does this indicate a problem? The assembly has a 2" dia spring that is 1.5" long when assemabled and 1" when compressed. Is this what you are calling a big spring? Should the spring be compressed or not when assembling to the tractor?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When the starter motor turns, it draws the bendix forward on the shaft toward the starter motor. The bendix then engages the ring gear & turns the engine over. When the engine RPM's exceed the bendix design speed (which I can never remember)the bendix disengages.

Look at the gear on the bendix. If it is about 2 inches back on the shaft from the motor, it is disengaged.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob......did you remove the engine drain cock and oil canister?Doing this gives a lot more wiggle room. don b1
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don, yes I have removed them. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Soundguy, I think you must be correct that the starter is in the engaged position. I can rotate it by hand to the disengaged position but it won't stay there while I am jostling it around. Any other advice?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you should not be able to rotate it to the out position by hand.. it usually has to be spun out by overspeed motion.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks. I think you have given me the key. I probably cant get it installed because it isn't in the OUT position. There must be something wrong with the Bendix or me. So I will probably have to have a professional look it over. Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation Reply to specific post Reply with quote

post a pic.

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