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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey guys, I have a 4610 ford tractor that the power steering quit working on. I imagine it's the little pump but I'm not sure. Is there any way of checking it without just R&R with a new one?
It started out weak without the engine at full RPM now it's just dead without any assistance at all.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

start by checking flow i guess.. see if the pump is doing anything at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You might check the fluid level in the pump.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Haha, thanks...yeah I did that. It's full just not working.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

plugged filter?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

drain it.. fill it with 40wt oil, not 5w-40 but plain 40wt. if the pump starts to work a little bit, its a worn out pump. They cannot be rebuilt.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It"s an external pump on the left hand side of the block. Is it full of fluid? There"s a filter inside the pump that needs changinging every once in awhile (every 1000 hrs), It"s less than $10 and you have to remove the pump and take the reservior off to get access. I"d change that first.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Take the cap off the resevoir when the engine is running. If it appears to be circulating oil then you know the pump is turning... At that point I'd take the pump off and disassemble. Check to see if the housings are cut and the shaft bushings worn/gonzo. If they are, buy a new pump. If they're not then look at the releif valve in the pump. Could be some crap stuck in that and it's remaining open... More likely the pump is shot though...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats what I figured as well, I priced a new one this morning. Parts man told me he's try changing the filter first though, same as mentioned here.

Does the entire pump have to come off to replace the filter? If so I don't know that it's worth not just replacing the whole thing when I re-install the pump.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No need to pull the pump to change the filer - reservoir can be pulled with the pump in place.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats the way I understood my parts guy but I thought someone here said to pull the whole pump.

I knew it would probably be obvious tomorrow when I ge tthe filter and start on it but it's good to know now.
Thanks!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, don't take the pump off to change the filter. You probably need to remove the engine oil filter... and a steering cooler if it has one, then just remove the resevoir.
That said... the filter is a return filter so I don't expect that changing the filter will do anything for you other than liberate 20 bucks from you wallet. If the filter was bad the return releif valve would pop off or it would blow the filter to pieces... but it would still have steering pressure...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 4610 ford tractor steering Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It didn"t work that way with mine. I could not get the reservior off in place.
 
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