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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That was one of the first things we did. Everything shifted fine-fluid was milky so we will replace that- but as far as we could see the forks were in the right spot and everything seemed normal....will double check it tonight
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does it roll freely when out of gear?? You could have it stuck in 2 gears which will lock up the rear end and cause it to do what it is doing
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes it does roll freely when in neutral but when it is in gear, even when we have it lifted up the wheels go opposite direction
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In gear and jacked up the the wheel spinning different direction is normal and if they did not the you would have a problem. That is how the diff works. If it did not work like that it would be super hard to make any thing turn as in go right or left since in a turn one wheel has to go faster then the other or you cannot make a turn.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok, will try and mess with the gears tonight and see how it goes. That would explain why it wouldn't turn the motor over.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can also carefully put a pipe wrench on the PTO wit hit in gear and see if you can turn the engine over that way. And also pull the plugs out and put a little ATF in each cylinder so as to lube up the rings well so it will spin over easier
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No way you can see that the forks are in correctly with your eyes. Unless you can somehow see thru cast iron. You find out when you get it buttoned up and it will not move. It may not be your problem but sounds like it if I read your posts correctly.
These are the forks that have to fit into the slide gear grooves.


 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So I got the rear lifted up, in gear, tires spin fly wheel and motor dont move. Feels like it's in neutral....any thoughts?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you have both back tires off the ground yep it will do that since there is nothing holding the diff from spinning the other tire. These things do not have a locked up rear end in them if they did you could NEVER make a turn. Your car or truck will do the exact same thing. Set one rear tire on the ground then try to spin the engine with the tire that if off the ground
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok tried that, still nothing all it wants to do it turn the other tire, nothing moving in the front end
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What gear are you using?? You need to use the highest gear it has and even then if the engine is real tight from are build it may not turn very easy if at all. Pull all the plugs out and put in a little ATF in each cylinder and then try to turn it over with the back wheel leaving the plugs out. I have rebuilt more then one engine that where so tight one had a hard time spinning them over by hand.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's where we are stumped because we can hand crank the engine fairly easily from the front but as soon as you try to spin the tires from the rear it's like nothing wants to move we tried all three forward gears and it still didn't move the engine we will pull the plugs and put ATF on it and see if that helps but right now we're all scratching our heads
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

With one tire jacked up and the transmission out of gear can you freely spin the tire that is jacked up?? If you cannot spin it real easy or not at all good chance it is locked in 2 gears in the transmission and that would cause the problems your having
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes when it is in neutral and 1 wheel off the ground the wheel spins freely, same when we tried the other side. We tried all forward gears and each time it fails to turn the motor over. We are you g to try the ATF and pull g it around with out the plugs in. Hopefully that does the trick....just really confused as to why we would be able to hand crank the motor but not be able to budge it popping the clutch.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ALLIS B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only other thing I can think of as to why it does not turn over when pulling it is if it does not weight enough on the rear to keep the tires from getting good traction
 
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