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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking at a tractor for my garden. Narrowed it down to a couple. One of which is a B Allis. It is a 1947. Has hydraulics but owner says he never used them. Tires are 80% tin is straight paint is old but still there ( i.e. not rust covered) so couple questions. Is $1500 too much. Also how are the gears spaced beings its only 3 speeds . Ilooked at another tractor with a 3 speed gear box and 2 were way too slow and 3 was way too fast. Also would a B do what I need. I am looking for something to pull two sections of quack digger, 1-14 or 1-16 plow. 5 ( give or take) foot tandem disk. 3/4 ton pick up box trailer. One row potatoe digger. Etc. Thanks, Sod Buster
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

An Allis B is an excellent gardening tractor, and if in good working condition with good tires, $1500 sounds about right to me, at least in my area. I have noticed tractor prices vary greatly depending on your part of the country. The 3 speed trans, in my opinion is geared about right for gardening, you can see the speeds yourself on tractor data under transmission, if you want to see them. The B will easily pull a one bottom 14" plow, a 5' disc and the other stuff you mentioned. The only issue will be hooking them up, as the B has no 3 point hitch, if your implements are 3 point, you will have to buy or make one yourself, which adds money to the tractor price, and these B's are great with the original Allis equipment, but the front end gets pretty light real quick once you add the aftermarket 3 point to it. It just places the weight to far back from the tractor, don't be surprised if the 5' disc, if its a 3 point hitch picks the front end up off the ground every time you encounter a small ridge in the ground while it is up for transport, unless you add weight to the front end. Even with an aftermarket 3 point, I would recommend an original Allis B plow for it and the other items maybe 3 point. Unless you have or get a pull type disc.
An Allis B is a good gardening tractor if you are prepared to live with either no 3 point or an aftermarket 3 point that will make the front end light and not have draft control, or live hydraulics, unless you go to a lot of trouble to install an engine driven pump, can be expensive. Sorry for this much info, hope it helps.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have the trailer like you and it works good... have the 1-14 plow on a 3 point and it works good... have a 5 ft double gang disc on 3 point and I put a tail wheel on it and just use the lower arms to raise the front of the disc and ride on the trail wheel.. A "B" is too light for a 3 point disc without a tail wheel.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We have a B, but we only use the cultivators on it to plow, we raise about 2 acres of garden. As noted in another post, it does not have 3ph but I have seen several that have had 3ph added and it does not look that hard to do. We like ours have had it since 98 and never given us a problem yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You must be from WI or MN or you would not be pulling a "quack digger", it would be called something else LOL
The B will be fine for all of that equipment and since you have plenty of power to pull any of it simply throttle it back if going to fast to give you those in between "gears" . Lack of 3 point and the old school hydraulics hurts the versatility of the B a bit but if you all ready have the pull type equipment and do OK with it then it is not it a drawback.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dad farmed 148 acres with an Allis Chalmers C back in the 1940's. The neighbor on the other side of the road farmed 80 acres with an Allis Chalmers B at the same time. Both used pull type trip plows. The remainder of the equipment was what they used with horses before the purchased a tractor. The Allis Chalmers B sure could still handle any garden duties that was at least three times as long and wide as the B and any equipment you plan on pulling. We called, back in the day, what might be called a large garden today, a truck patch.

We had gardens close to the house and a plot out of the corner of one of the fields a truck patch. The truck patch was tilled and cultivated with the farm tractor. Rows were marked and fertilized with the corn planter in the truck patches. We mainly planted sweetcorn, pop corn, potatoes, and tomatoes in our truck patches. Some times pees and string beans. All depended what Mom wanted large amounts of to can or freeze.
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