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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I attempted to plow for the first time with my Montgomery-Ward Plow-Trac this weekend and I pretty much failed. I picked up the plow on craiglist and it was originally for the Simplicity but it has the same exact attachment mount. The plow itself has a long handle that comes off of it to help guide it while plowing I am assuming. I have watched a few videos on YouTube and none of them have this handle, and all of them seem to be permanently fixed directly behind the tractor. When my plow is attached it swings from side to side. Should my plow also be permanently fixed? I most definitely need to make some adjustments to the plow itself which I plan on doing. My soil is nice sandy loam with no rocks and I was pushing the tractor most of the time or else the tire not in the furrow would just spin. I do not have wheel weights. Any suggestions/thoughts?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is a very nice old book by the Ford tractor company which explains all kinds of basics about plowing.
I'd suggest you buy it or download it and read through it and then once you have done that you could ask mores specific questions.
You are, at this point, asking a question that can only be answered with a long discussion and a bunch of pictures.
The Simplicity plow should follow along behind the tractor. There is a piece on that plow called the heel that holds the plow in line, once you get the moldboard into the ground.
(removeextraletters)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRRmh_0swYQ(removeextraletters)
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a plow trac and it works good with the plow. (used it today to scrape up walnuts, picture in Tractor Tales under "picture of today"). The plow is pictured a few threads below where I asked if anyone's heard from Hal. This time I used the old Bolens riding garden tractor and it broke the hitch. I welded the hitch today and added pieces top and bottom, don't think it will break again there. One thing doesn't sound right, you say the left side tire spins. Both hubs should lock up so both would spin, not just one, and the plow should be able to swing.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's a picture of the Plow Trac. I tried adding a wheel to the plow but soon took it off.

 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A picture would sure help.

I have a 3 hp. Simplicity 2 wheel walking tractor, very similar to what I saw when I googled Montgomery Ward Plow Trac.

The plow with my tractor, about an 8" wide plow I am guessing, has no handle to guide it. it is free to swivel in the hitch on the tractor about 30 degrees in each direction. this helps on curves, if you need to plow a curved area. If you have rocky soil it can sometimes swing around the rocks.

Its been a while, but the best I remember, to plow you turn the depth handle on the plow in to lower the point, and plow your first furrow. Mine could plow a furrow about 3 to 4" deep in the ground around here. It would spin out if set much deeper than that. Then on your second furrow, the right side wheel runs in your previous furrow so the machine tips to the right. To compensate for the right side wheel being lower, you turn the depth handle back the other direction so the second furrow is about the same depth as the first. After you get the depth handle set for the second furrow, you don't have have to turn the handle again until you are finished and want to let the plow slide on what I think is the 'land slide' back to the shed.

If you are trying to break up sod, like in a lawn, you may have to get someone with at tractor to plow it up the first time.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You need. Weights , including the one that
mounts on front, I have heavy clay and
tried to plow with about same results as in
your photo, you have to adjust point of plow
so that the point of plow is just slightly lower
then the back of plow then landslide will
keep plow from going to the left, the handle
belongs to your cultuvator, My 7016 simplicity
with sleeve hitch adaptor does much better
Job of pulling plow, I use my cultivator with simplicity shanks with triangle tips , this works quite well with the
walker, I think the problem with plowing is that. when
you push down on handle bars , it takes weight off the
wheels and then it spins , If you find weights , put more
on left side
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for all the suggestions. I am trying to get this old tractor/plow in working order just for the fun of it. When I had the plow off the tractor and was walking it around the yard both tires would spin and I could hardly hold it back. When I put the plow and and actually used it only the tire out of the furrow was spinning. Not sure why that might be, maybe I had the lever in the wrong position. Glad to know the guide handle goes on the cultivator because it seemed to always be in my way. I will take some pics this weekend if the weather is decent.

On a side note, any idea where I can get a new throttle cable? I snapped it this weekend while trying to shut it off. It was outside for so long before I rescued it that it is rusted up pretty good. It looks like the cable is permanently fixed to the actual lever mounted to the handlebars. Any idea how to fix this?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You say only one wheel spins. With the engine off, try making the tractor pivot on one wheel. You should hear a ratchet or clicking sound in the rolling wheel and the axle should not turn. Do this with the other wheel.

On my tractor, there is a ratchet in the hub of each wheel. if the hub spins around the axle, its loose, there should be a setscrew to tighten it. If you hear no ratcheting sound, probably either the ratchet pawl is broken or the spring is broken or missing.
In straight ahead travel, the ratchets should lock each wheel and the whole assembly turn on the axle as one unit.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When both tires would spin the drive was working in both wheels, in there sometime the right wheel drive broke. And I have a lot of those new old stock cables. You replace the whole thing.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: Plowing with Walking Tractor Help Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you are willing to sell me one of those throttle cables please let me know. My email is fpappal@gmail.com

Thanks.
 
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