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Ed Douglas
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yo Forum Chums!
Picked up an OLD Lincoln Stick Welder....you change the voltage by turning a crank...I bet it is even older than Royse!!....I am sure it is older than Bruce!!....Here is the question...no
manual...what amp breaker are y'all using with your stick welders?...gonna be using 6 or 8 gauge wire in a short run to the welder...Many Thanks!
 
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Royse
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Nice to know you're back safely! Smile
Lincoln has manuals available for free download here.
I have an old Lincoln tombstone that you change the voltage by
unplugging the cables and plugging them back into a different hole.
Tag says it's a 1936. Has a 6V battery charger built in too.
Yes, those handles are knurled metal.
Manual suggests turning it off before unplugging them. Wink

I also have a newer, AC only tombstone with a fancy switch.
Both of them are wired with 8 GA wire. I'd have to check for sure,
but I think they are on 40 amp breakers. I can check tomorrow,
but I'm fairly certain they are not more than that or I would
have used larger wire.


 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote


i've got a semi-modern lincoln ac/dc 225/125 on ~ 30" of 10 gauge and a 50 amp breaker. breaker hasn't tripped, but it's never been dialed up anywhere near those numbers.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dang....it IS older than you!! Thanks Lawson!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I must be older then dirt as I still have the Lincoln welder with turn dial for amps and I have the booklet which states "The power required for the welder are listed on the specification label plate for the welder". I had to replace the 40 amp breaker with 60 amp breaker to keep it from tripping out. Buy wire size for 60 amp
Charles Krammin 80, welder about 1964 (bought the farm 80 acres for $16,000). Sold at a profit!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have 10/2 with ground romex running about 50 ft with 50 amp breakers on each leg. House also runs off same breakers, YA pushing my luck. Goes to Lincoln 180 buzz box. haven't had any problem in almost 30 years
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maximum amps were used when I went to max to cut metal with rod.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"(bought the farm 80 acres for $16,000). Sold at a profit!"

Have you moved Charles? I still need to find those mower guards
for you. I did find some that are red, but I'm not sure they're the
ones you are looking for. The manual is setting right here next to me!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I have an old Fortney plug-n-play 180 amp. stick welder that has aluminum windings. When I started using it I melted a couple of leads off the plug-in sockets on the welder due to loose and dirty connections of those female plugs . During the course of the welders life the aluminum leads to the plug-ins loosened up a little from many years of use. Add a little corrosion to those loose connections and you start melting the leads off. After I took it apart, I cleaned the connections and reassembled them, using dielectric grease on all the connections to get it working again. After a little more use the capacitor burned up. I ended up using a large electric motor capacitor to get it working again. So, if anyone buys an old aluminum wound welder they should clean and tighten all connections before the welder is put to use.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The idealarc with a crank to adjust the movable core were made for a long time and still are so it may not be that old actually
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

" .I am sure it is older than Bruce!!"

Ha!

At 68, it's nice to be called young!

And of about 60 members in the local Model A club, only 2 are younger than me.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like the early 1950's to me, round top buzz box. They got us two new ones like that for our HS shop.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Haven't moved yet. 3 more years in farm house for sure. The Red guards are the ones I need and will buy back.
I put the DC weights on the Ford 600. Good fit. extra 500#, now makes "a puller".
Had to have the frame welded on the Dearborn J-I bull dozer frame. Pushing too big of down trees with loaded tires and chains in low gear on the 2N.
Charlie
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Grandpa had Lincoln welder with a crank. He bought it new in 72 after burning down his wood shed with an old Adams welder
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mine are on 40 amp breakers Ed. I've never tripped either one,
but I don't usually crank mine way up to weld or cut, either.
 
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