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Mike M
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would fear of loosening up too much junk. Maybe just change it and run it and change it more often than normal ?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would change the oil and filter more often to clean out the engine. Gunk Motor Flush cleans well, but don't drive with it. Add a quart, just let the engine idle a few minutes and then drain the oil and change the filter.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you do use some type of solvent in the oil (Seafoam, Gunk, etc...) ad some quality stop leak (Bar's?) to the oil when you change it. The solvents dry out the seals and gaskets.

I would just fill it with some synthetic and do a short oil change (1000 miles) then refill with synthetic.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Never heard that about Sea Foam. I drove An IH truck back and forth to work for 10 years and used Sea Foam in oil all the time.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree that short oil changes is the safest method.

I sometimes use solvents as a flush when changing oil in a very dirty engine, but I won't drive do any work with them in an engine. So far, I haven't had trouble with increased oil leaks, but I can see how it could easily happen. Some motor oils for high mileage cars advertise that they have seal conditioners.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Generally, I add Rislone in the fall and run it thru the winter...helps the engine to crank better, while it cleans..

It will not act like Kerosene and cut the dirt out guickly...(though I HAVE seen recommendations to use Kerosene to flush engine and transmissions) found in the older John Deere Operators Manual..
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If oil is very dirty I would change now and in a hundred mile change again. Would give enough time to mix what dirty oil will not drain and get things out. Then repete again at anouther hundred miles then go to what you plan to keep in and then add the treatment if you want. Why spend the money on treatment when you need to throw away the first two rounds of oil at a very low milage. That is the closest to what the receomed way to flush a tractor with kerosine was. Just use a cheap oil for the first flush then the better quality oils. You need to clean it out fast and not wait for thousands of miles to get the dirt out. Even drain, put that cheap oil in and just let it run for a half hour-hour and drain and when you do that see how dirty it is and go from there. But no reason to waste the treatment by putting it in to soon as you need to flush at least twice before you put treatment in. And I have use those treatments. The local Ferguson dealer was also a small plane poilet and owned his own plane and always said using STP he would get 200 more RPM out of that engine and on that he needed every RPM he could get. Know I am not a good speller.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Older engines (high mileage) will be ok if you treat them right. I use Lucas oil stabilizer in my old tractor and change oil at 2-300 hours. Never have a problem. My Lincoln has 160,000 on it, I change every 15000 with Mobil 1 15000 mile oil and have no problems and burn no oil. However, 30 years ago I bought a sailboat with a Nissan 6 CYL diesel that had over 20000 hours on it. I used a quart of oil every 20 hours or so. I got the wild idea that Slick 50 would benefit the engine. What a mess Cleaned engine out so well it used a quart every 5 hours until I finally got a 1000 hours on it to get back to normal . Now I am very cautious using anything except Seafoam or Marvel Mystery oil.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Do 3 oil/filter changes in the next 300 miles.A good quality oil will always look dirty after 700 to 1000 miles and always look pretty on the dipstick.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Had a fella bring me his 68 gm car way back when. Had a noise in the engine. Pulled dip stick,no oil,pulled oil pan,there had been oil at one time but it had turned to like putty. Never seen anything like it before or sense.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

First engine I ever went into, a 62 Pontiac 389, had a layer of gray sludge about 1" thick stuck to the bottom of the oil pan.

It was like putty, peeled out practically in one piece. Never seen it since. That engine had a floating pick up screen, so nothing on the bottom of the pan got disturbed. My dad always ran Gulfpride, not sure why, I never did after seeing that!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Think I'd be scared of loosening too much crud too fast, decent oil and a couple of shorter change intervals will start to clean it up.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I did an oil change with a quart of Rislone in my first car back in 1973, car was a '70 Nova with 307 small block. I had run 400-500 miles since I bought the car, no appreciable oil usage. After 4 quarts of 10W-40 Quaker State and the Rislone I started using oil about a quart every 200-250 miles. Engine had been run hot before I bought it, O-ring valve stem seals were cracking and breaking off valve stems and valves were very loose in the guides. Engine needed rebuilt heads, or a whole new engine. Traded car after about 70-80 thousand miles. Last year or so I carried a 24 can case of oil in the trunk when it was using a quart every 125-150 miles. Every six months I'd spin a new oil filter on and add more oil.

Risolne does NOT FIX Anything!

If your worried about sludge, run 2-3 changes of 10W-40 Rotella, Valvoline, or Delo, or Delvac in it, 400-500 miles per change.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When you changed oil did you take a look down filler to see how dirty top of head. Also was there any sludge in bottom of pan and on plug.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Dirty motor oil Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Looking at the filter base is a good indicator of what the inside of the engine looks like are if you have a issue going on. The filter base should be as clean as the day you put it on unless you are one of those that believe in extended oil changes Sad...

Most of these filters have bout 3/5K the dirty one in the middle 3K he was losing a qt of coolant into the crankcase between changes causing sludge issues.


 
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