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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My input shaft seal has been leaking badly for some time now on my dual clutch to-35 It's a steady slow drip at level but if your headed downhill it's a large leak. I finally got around to splitting the tractor. The snap ring holding the lower shaft in was a nightmare to remove but eventually I got it out so I could pull the input shaft and it's housing free of the gears and out of the tractor. It's not sitting on my bench how do I disassemble it further to get to the failed seal?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The retainer has two snap rings and comes apart. One is on end-look close- and other is
inside once it's apart.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It has two seals.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check out the info in Massy Harris & Ferguson that was started by "1948 jr" on Novmbr,18,2017:

His posting is Titled mf 35:

You shall probably find your answer in his posting:

Bob...Owner operator MF F 35 X
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As minor said, there are two seals, one inside the hollow shaft, and one inside the retainer housing. Special tools are needed to remove the hollow shaft seal, best have your dealer replace that one for you.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I see one of the snap rings under the rear gear I'll take that off later and see if I can pull it apart. We have various seal tools at my work maybe I can use one of those to remove the seal if not I will take it to the dealer if I have to. Anyone have the part numbers for the two seals? I only saw one seal listed for the dual clutch version when I ordered parts.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Numbers may change, book I have shows the larger retainer seal is 195 503 M1, smaller seal inside the hollow shaft is 195 501 M1.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the help everyone everything is apart and just waiting on new seals to put back together. I was able to pop the smaller seal right out with a small inside jaw slide hammer I suggest anyone else doing this job tries that before a trip to the dealer. I believe the tool I used is an OTC model 1170 and retails about $60 not sure what a dealer charges to pop it out but my closest dealer is about an hour and a half away so the time and fuel would pay for the tool in my case. Anyway hopefully the parts are correct when they show up and it all goes back together nice and smooth.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok I got the new seals in and just about got it back
together when I found the bearing on that lower
shaft (the one that needs to be removed to let the
gears drop down and pull the upper assembly) is
bad I can't see the fault with it but it's got a sticky
spot when spinning. This is the bearing on the
round plate removed before pulling the lower shaft.
The part number on the bearing is New Departure
3208 but I am not sure of the MF number. I am
ignorant to nomenclature so looking up parts on
various parts sites is proving difficult. I think maybe
this shaft is the PTO liveshaft? But I can't find a
picture of one for sale to confirm this. Anyway
anyone have this part number for me? A link to a
PDF of a parts book would be great too if that
exists...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Input shaft seal Reply to specific post Reply with quote

MF bearing # 195 502 M2.
 
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