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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:05 am    Post subject: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anyone have a Ford model 19-105 front end loader on their NAA tractor? I found one I am looking at for $450. Seems like a really good price to me. It needs some hoses, paint, and TLC. I am hoping to make the deal later today. Here is a picture of it on an 8n. The literature says they were made for N's, NAA's, 600's and 800 series tractors. I found a manual for it on-line already.

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No comments huh? Well, too late now cause I am going to pick it up in the morning.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Got the loader off the 8N, on my truck and got it home. Only problem is that I couldn't get the mounting plate and pump mount. Someone had welded the plate to the bolster. No big deal as it wouldn't fit my Jubilee anyway. I will be building one for my tractor. I am thinking that 3/8" steel for the plate. The one on the 8N looked like 1/4". Any thoughts that 3/8" is overkill? I don't guess anyone would have a dimensional drawings of the mounting plate? Just thought I would ask. Here is a picture of the parts I need to mount the loader.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hdonly wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:56:33 12/06/17) Got the loader off the 8N, on my truck and got it home. Only problem is that I couldn't get the mounting plate and pump mount. Someone had welded the plate to the bolster. No big deal as it wouldn't fit my Jubilee anyway. I will be building one for my tractor. I am thinking that 3/8" steel for the plate. The one on the 8N looked like 1/4". Any thoughts that 3/8" is overkill? I don't guess anyone would have a dimensional drawings of the mounting plate? Just thought I would ask. Here is a picture of the parts I need to mount the loader.



Could you post pictures of how you mount your pump, and the front mount as you go. I may be getting a loader for my '63 4000, which was on a case 880. I did not see how it was mounted on the case, but I know it was different then the Ford. I need idea's as to how to mount both the pump, and to the front.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here are some pictures of the mounts for a 4000 and a 730 loader if they might help.





 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think I got lucky. I found the front mounting plate on Messick's for $59.39 + $17.46 shipping. A lot easier and less time that building it from scratch. Still have to build the pump mount and the rear mounts. One less job to worry about.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, Messick's just cancelled my order as NA. I got in touch with a rep at New Holland. She took all the numbers I had and is going to try and track down some dimensional drawings of the attachment parts kit for me. I can make the parts without the drawings, but it sure would be easier with them. Would eliminate a lot of back and forth to the loader and tractor. And they would fit the first time. If she can come through with the drawings, I will post them for anyone that needs them.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Thanks, it does help me vision on what I have to do, to get it to work. If you do get the drawings, I'd definitely like to see them.

I am able to buy a loader cheap that was on a case 880. It was sitting in a barn, with no bucket. He never had one, he had a spear for picking up round bales. It will need new hoses, and a control, and pump.

The mount I get with it, and totally different. They are the quick release type. But I think I can get them to work, by some how mounting them to the side in the rear. I have to figure out how to mount the front to the tractor. Which your pictures help.

Here is a picture of the front of mine, right now. I have the tractor completely stripped down, getting it ready to paint.

Pat

What does the pump drive look like. And what do I need to do, to connect it to the crank?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


What are you going to use as a reservoir tank, or does yours have a built in one.

Pat
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


One thing I don't do, is run out of questions! lol

Would you Please post some pictures of your loader. I would like to see the frame work of it. I need some idea's as to how to mount, and make mine work.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is a picture of the pump drive parts. Here is the model as I have. Not mine, but a better picture than I have of mine.




 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Your pictures have helped me a lot, Thank you! I know how, to mod this one to mount onto my 4000. It will be easy. Some what!

What is the pump you'll be using. I have to get one, and I have no clue as to what they are called.

Also, do you have a idea as to where to look for a drive setup, or parts for the pump.

I use to have a 8n some 25-30 years ago with a loader on it. I use to know what pump was on it, as it was the same one Bridgeport used on our milling machines. I always knew where I could get a replacement if I needed one. lol

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 07:39:56 12/09/17)
Your pictures have helped me a lot, Thank you! I know how, to mod this one to mount onto my 4000. It will be easy. Some what!

What is the pump you'll be using. I have to get one, and I have no clue as to what they are called.

Also, do you have a idea as to where to look for a drive setup, or parts for the pump.

I use to have a 8n some 25-30 years ago with a loader on it. I use to know what pump was on it, as it was the same one Bridgeport used on our milling machines. I always knew where I could get a replacement if I needed one. lol



Thanks, Pat

The pump came with my loader. I haven't looked at it that close yet. Looks like the pump drive parts can be had right here on the site. I know the parts for my tractor are here. I am going to try to post the manual I found for my loader. I couldn't post the link so look at this screenshot and go to the address and see if you can find anything that helps you.



 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Ford model 19-105 front end loader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry, that didn't work. You can't really see the address.
Just google "NTC Manual Library " and see if that will take you to it.
 
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