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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:53 am    Post subject: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just bought this front end loader to mount on my Jubilee tractor. Anyone one have one of these on an NAA or 600 and how do you like it? The picture shows it on an 8N. It's sitting on the back of my truck right now. I have to make the front pump and loader attachment plates. Also have to make the rear attachments. The parts from the 8N won't fit my Jubilee.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like a heavy loader,especially for a small tractor. Better load the rear tires and hang a big heavy wt from the 3 point.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Designed for NAA, 600 and 800 tractors. I have a small 3-point backhoe on the rear that weighs in at about 1,000 lbs.



 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hdonly that loader looks like it was designed for at least a 75 or 100 hp. tractor, as deltared said you may not have enough weight or hp. for a loader that size? if you have the make and model # maybe look it up and see what size tractor it's rated for.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

carvel minne farmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:51:41 12/07/17) Hdonly that loader looks like it was designed for at least a 75 or 100 hp. tractor, as deltared said you may not have enough weight or hp. for a loader that size? if you have the make and model # maybe look it up and see what size tractor it's rated for.

Read the brochure pictures I posted. It was designed for an NAA. I also have a 192cu. industrial engine in my Jubilee. My main concern is taking it easy on my rear axle with the extra horsepower.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That looks real heavy for a Jubliee. i wouldn't ever really want to use an 8N or Jubilee as a loader tractor personally.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Auuugh. I give up.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just for moral support - you are correct, the 19-105 was designed for
and used for Ford tractors from the 8N through including the NAA and
600. It had a long production run, approximately 1950 through 1958.
The 19-105 is in the 703 loader series and is the model with single-
acting lift cylinders. The 19-97, which I have mounted on a Ford 840,
has double-acting lift cylinders. For those who think the 19-105 is
big and heavy below is a picture comparing the 19-97 with a modern TLB
loader. BTY I have the assembly instructions if you need any of that.


 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Had the 703 on my 640. Smaller bucket. No power steering but you get use to strong arm steering. You'll need some sort of counter weight.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Andy Wickiser wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:18:30 12/07/17) Just for moral support - you are correct, the 19-105 was designed for
and used for Ford tractors from the 8N through including the NAA and
600. It had a long production run, approximately 1950 through 1958.
The 19-105 is in the 703 loader series and is the model with single-
acting lift cylinders. The 19-97, which I have mounted on a Ford 840,
has double-acting lift cylinders. For those who think the 19-105 is
big and heavy below is a picture comparing the 19-97 with a modern TLB
loader. BTY I have the assembly instructions if you need any of that.

<img src = https://s19.postimg.org/6l68njtmb/455_D_713resized.jpg>
Thanks for the offer on the instructions, I found a manual for the loader in a .pdf file.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hdonly that loader is one heavy duty built loader as was typical of equipment built in the 50's and 60's (and the main reason it's still around and not melted down for a new Toyota) being designed for the 8n to the 800 as your brochure shows, there's no reason your jubilee shouldn't be able to handle it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

and with your 3pt. backhoe as a counter weight it should balance out.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I feel that it is going to balance out well with my small backhoe. It's not a machine that will see a lot of really heavy or everyday use, but it will be mighty handy around my little 10acre play farm. And it's all sand here and no rocks. If you find a rock here, some body brought it here. Not like dealing in real dirt. There is a big difference. Plus, I am very easy on my equipment. This is a budget dirt tractor build as I just don't need a full size backhoe/loader or the expense of one. It has the 1/3 cubic yard bucket on it.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is a very similar setup on a Jubilee, and basically like what I will end up with.

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Industrial 19-105 FEL Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hdonly looking at your pics I see you have a hydraulic thumb on your backhoe, I have a yanmar b-6 excavator on rubber tracks with an offsetting boom and hydraulic thumb on it and that thumb is so handy for a 100 different jobs! clearing out trees and brush, old stumps, moving stuff just clamp the thumb down and it's gone. I would never buy a hoe with out it.
 
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