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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So earlier I went out to start my Ford 841S and it would not start. But that is a another story. So I figured since I was starting or trying to start a couple I would try the IH584 I got this summer. I did not do anything but hold the shut off at half way back and then hit the starter. I spun over a few times and fired right up but yet the gas Ford had to have the battery charged before it would start and starter fluid to boot. I think I know which tractor I will use this winter if and when I need to plow snow off my driveway. In the past it would have been the Ford but since this 584 start this easy and is diesel it will be used instead
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Reliable starting is a feature of main consideration. 16 below tonight. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I did move the IH584 closer to the snow plow and building so I can get power to it if need be. It does still have a tank type heater on it but not sure if it works or if it got to hot when this was on fire. I spliced the burnt part of the cord with a cord I had laying around but never plugged it in long enough to test it. So I know it is not shorted out but not sure it will heat either
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Old, the German D-206 is a good starter in the cold.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'll tell you, the best starting thing around here is the IH 886. Red tractors just seem to be better cold starters for me. All of the green are plugged in all winter but the 886 will start any day without it. I did plug it in tonight as it is supposed to be 10 degrees when I get up to chore. The batteries are going on 13 years old so I thought I would help them out. It would fire right up without it, though. The 4020, 4440, and 8430 JD need hours plugged in to start. Always have since new.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 584 is an excellent starting tractor,never has it not started and we get -30 at times here in southern Ontario. We have a 6' Lucknow two stage snow blower that has been taking care of snow for almost 30 years and the 584 is the go to tractor
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Speaking of easy starting, I had my M converted to 12 volt, electronic ignition 2 years ago, it spins and starts so fast it is almost like cheating. Ellis
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have an Oliver S88 that starts real easy also. Most of the time one can hit the starter button and before yon can get your hand off it is running and it has always been that way in the 10 plus years I have owned it and I have yet to even do a tune up to it in all those years
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's a sign of a good engine you got there! That tractor ought to start easy down to about 15* or so.But,if it was me,at that temperature,I would give it a light whiff of ether.But my first preference is to use a block heater.You ought to plug it in for a 1/2 hour and see if it works.
I bought a timer that I put on the end of my extension cord,so that the heater comes on about 3 hours ahead of time.So much easier on the cranking system. Mark.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It did let me down today when I needed it to pull my wife out when she well lets say did not watch where she was driving and tried to total her car. When it would not start I plugged it in and let it sit for 30 minutes or so but would not turn over so I hook up the battery charger and then did not help either. Switch battery and it started up but was no longer needed
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Put a decent battery on the Ford and fix whatever's wrong with the iginition/carb, and it will be a good reliable starter too.

You really can't blame a tractor for being hard to start when the battery's dead, the ignition system needs routine maintenance, and/or the carburetor hasn't been serviced in decades.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: IH584 surprised me and started Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Like most of my tractor the yare not started this time of year often and that causes problem in it self. The old 841S if I start it once a week or more starts easy but if I let it sit a few week it does not like to start. Ya it could use a better battery but it is a real pain in the back sides to remove the battery due to the extra heavy duty loader it has
 
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