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dhermesc
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You seem to think "immigrants = workers". The US has a couple million people it will send you.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-jimg.allentown wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:26:15 01/03/1Cool You are looking in the wrong place. The gases that batteries give off when charging are relatively harmless. The problem lies in where the electricity comes from to charge them. The answer? From power plants many miles away that are polluting many more times than a gasoline engine to do the same amount of work.

I have said this before, and I will say it again. Electric cars are only of limited value due to several factors. Short range, long charging times, limited amount of recharging that can be done to a given battery. Current battery technology is simply not up to the job.


Jim, are you driving a Model T Ford? I understand that there have been a few upgrades to cars since the model T.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Mostly it is an excuse for a platform to make or collect money and enforce power or control. If any complaint is made they defend themselves with “ it is saving the environment “ or “ it’s for the children”.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes but it recycles just, like the trees I burn. lol
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where is all the electricity going to come from to recharge all these electric? Read this morning the cold has stretched the power grid about to its limit,plug in a few million cars and I'd expect it'd blow a gasket.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What gets me is that those who drive an electric vehicle pulls up and expects to plug it in to recharge it for nothing.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Our social support system isn?t exactly as appealing as yours, that?s why they head there in the first place, change the system and they will disappear....Most that immigrate to Canada want a better life and tend to work for it, no shame in that.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You know, there is a tax added to gasoline/diesel for road usage. Those electric vehicle users are in for a 'surprise' when they find out they're going to be charged for mileage. And guess who is doing the checking?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They are what they are, Paul.

Dean
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I read stories about Australia and the rabbit plauge. Some people got hold of the virus that kills rabits and it was passed around between land owners like pound bags of refer. Throw some dead rabbit in a blender and mix up a batch of killer virus. Reading on wiki about it. Early 50s they had Myxoma virus and in the 90s 5hey used calicivorus. Always some idiot who introduced something that doesn't belong and has no natural predators. Yes we do need one heck of a dozzie of a plauge.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. It turned into preaching . Reply to specific post Reply with quote

rustyfarmall wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:05:23 01/03/1Cool
My idea for saving the world is to just stop building more highways. If there is no place for driving a car, people will start walking once again.
I just saw an article on the construction of a parking garage in Sioux Falls South Dakota. I have looked at articles about this project in the past. I have nothing to gain or loose in this project as I do not live there. One of the key selling points made by a city council man was that it was need to curb the very bad parking problems in the area. Then he went on to say it would bring at large number of new business into the area. The way I see it it will soon make the parking problems even worse. Looks to me as though its more about tax base expansion through new business as well as fees collected from the 14 story parking garage. More revenue to play with. Looks like he is trying to put the fire out with gasoline.
Around here they build roads in help with bad traffic patterns. The thing is the developers seem to know where the new roads will be built first and buy the land long before the roads are completed. It has been a never ending rush to build roads. Our population growth is about developers not the needs of the area. It is a constant battle to try to get investors to bring in jobs to support all the people. I do not see things changing. When efforts have been made to slow growth they are met with an army of lawyers led by the developers and they have deep pockets. I am no tree huger but would hate to know how many acres of farm and forest land taken out of production in the last 25-30 years here. Just the ramblings of some one that no longer matters in the so called real world.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hahaha! Best part was the gluten-free seitan skewer. Seitan in made ENTIRELY of wheat gluten! It's almost as if that article was making a mockery of the newlyweds. I hope so. Not for being vegan, that's fine, but for being such cryny whibabies!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Dean wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:52:23 01/03/1Cool The so-called environmental issues will NEVER be solved.

If such so-called problems were solved, we would have no use for the EPA.

Think that's going to happen?

Dean


Yes it will..........

Right after they cure cancer at no charge and when they change the federal income tax to one tax rate for all with no way to pay less.

Period
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Better get used to it. Several European car makers have announced they'll phase out internal combustion vehicles in the next decade, switching to hybrid and/or 100 percent electric vehicles. Certainly US car makers won't get on the band wagon until they have to, but eventually they will.

The question is not whether or not electric vehicles pollute. They do. The question is which vehicles have the smaller environmental footprint: internal combustion or electric? If you can effectively recycle the batteries and generate power from renewable sources, electric vehicles have a smaller footprint. Even if we can't generate all of our power from renewable sources, economic forces are pushing out the dirtiest source of electricity, coal.

Rather than recycle lithium batteries, Elon Musk has proposed to re-purpose used EV batteries by using them to store solar energy. The used batteries are good enough for this purpose, it postpones the need to recycle the batteries, and it solves the need for low-cost solar energy storage.

Don't knock catalytic converters. Without this technology (or something similar), we would have been faced with an difficult choice: Continue to pollute our cities until they're unlivable, or switch to electric vehicles back when the technology was in its infancy. Also, catalytic converters had a beneficial side effect: they forced the elimination of lead from gasoline, removing a major source of lead in the environment. Anyone who experienced the air quality of Los Angeles or Denver back in the seventies and again in the past decade (as I believe you have) would agree that the air in those cities is much better today. Automotive emission controls were a major contributor to that improvement.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I can be driving in town behind a gas vehicle and know by the stench of raw gasoline if it is pre 1976 vehicle.
Some are worse then others of course but some just make you gasp for some good air.
 
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