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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:09 pm    Post subject: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm planning on buying an old, smaller, cheap manure spreader. I will only need to use it a couple times per year.

I've seen International - McCormick 100 & 200, Oliver, and John Deere (don't even know the models, # all worn off) ones for sale near me - all at $300-$700. I haven't traveled to look at them, just seen pics. They all look old and rusty, as expected.

I realize chains may break, some maintenance needed, etc - on equipment that is 70 years old. My question really regards parts availability. Are any of these brands more difficult to find parts for, or more difficult to work on, than the others? I think I have read that the "S" apron chain links on the International are getting hard to find. I don't know about Oliver. I assume Deere may be easier to find parts?

The IH seems to be the most prevalent. I have no brand loyalty when it comes to spreading crap.

Any tips?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where you get into problems is loading them with a ?loader?. Ground driven spreaders weren?t made to have a heavy wet load. They were mostly loaded with a guy and pitchfork. If you do load it with a loader keep it real light or you?ll be using a fork when the chain breaks. Been there done that. That?s why the good condition single axle pto spreaders hold value.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a Case. No problems getting parts.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The McCormick 100 is a very small spreader made for a Farmall Cub and is I think about a 35 bushel spreader and dealer I know when he has one it is someware around a thousand dollars. The 200 is a normal sized spreader of someware around 70 bushels. Oliver I think was about a 50 bushel size. Deere never made one that small.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The "S" chain is available, just have to contact the right people, ie- the Amish. The McD 200 is about the best spreading GD machine made from the aspect of shredding and even spreading. A New Idea 10 is a close second and is real easy to get parts for.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I use a ground driven New Idea. It spreads nice but like was mentioned you have to load it carefully. I shake apart the big dense wet chunks if I am using the loader.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've got a I-H 200 I've used and had for about 20 years. Every spring I haul about 40 loads with it. It lives outside and I dump oil on the bed to preserve it and the apron chain. It doesn't owe me a thing although I did pay around a 1000 bucks for it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

These days they are all old and well worn. I don't think 'brand' will be an issue.The thing to look for is RUST and high wear. Look at especially the floor and chain. then look at the rest of it.Spending a little more money for a better spreader will be well worth the extra money spent.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The McD is a 2 wheel tractor spreader, the 4 wheel version and hard to find is a 200-H. The New Idea 10 is actually a 10A and is a 4 wheel spreader, for a 2 wheel spreader look for a 12-12A spreader. There are other models of New Idea but not as popular. I have an Amish friend machinery dealer that has made new frames for the 10A new idea. A good ground drive spreader is a Deere model R that is 2 wheel tractor spreader and a 95 bu size about like the 12A New Idea. A 10A New Idea is about an 85 bu size spreader, not sure on the McD 200 but it is smaller that the JD R or NI 12A. And the Oliver that I have seen is about a 50 bu size spreader. So we are talking in size anyware from 35 bushel to 95 bushel so what he is wanting to do could dictate what he should look for.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a McD 100 and have had no issues in 4 years. I am missing the small side shield and finding one of those is not easy. I have spread compost, manure, and a fine stone dust with it. I wish it flung all things a bit further than it does as I tend to get some spots of bigger clumps if the material is fine. Like you I only use it a few times a year and it does fine for what I am expecting. I paid $700 4 years ago in MA.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can be hard to find an old manure spreader that isn't junk. Something to consider if you find one is tires. They can be odd size and quite costly to replace.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Shoups have the chains and S links that you may need. They also have the detachable chain that you may need for the gears. You just have to measure it to get the right size. Believe me, there are a lot of sizes of that type chain. I don't believe you will have much trouble finding the chain but if you break a gear you will probably have a lot of problems. I too have an old spreader and I made the slinger pieces for the beaters and there is a fellow on here that makes them. Just my thoughts, Keith
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a JD N model, probably 1960s vintage and it probably still has the original tires....very cracked but F1 tread fine and hold air for years without adding......great machine on the positive side for what you might be looking for.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have to disagree. Dad had a JD R ground driven spreader. We ALWAYS loaded it with a loader, and it wasn't full until it was piled and heaped WAY above the sides. R spreader wasn't very long or very wide but you could pile it WAY UP! Never had a problem with it. Slowly over the years the beaters on the back all stopped working, last year or two only the bottom front beater still worked, the top beater and wide spread beater just went along for the ride. Dad did have problems when he first got the spreader, corn cobs would get wedged between the crossbars on the apron chain and end of the wood floor and kick the chain off the rear sprockets, cutting the wood floor off about two inches cured that problem.

But if the ratchet mechanism that pulls the conveyor chain back is wore out all bets are off!

BTO I worked for had two Deere #44 PTO spreaders, one with the big diameter drum beater, other was conventional, top & bottom beaters and wide spread beater. I liked the single drum beater best. Both were WAY bigger than our old R spreader, think the R would fit inside those #44's.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: ground driven manure spreaders - any to avoid? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it. Sounds like there is no specific brand which people recommend avoiding, or which have particularly hard parts to find.
 
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