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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you can pick up a new holland 851 chain baler for around a thousand bucks. good old balers and will bale anything . for a few acres dont need anything fancy. your tractor will run it also. thats what i use.
no you dont want to bale wetter, as it will mold. these are soft core so the hay dont get packed as tight. greeness deepens on weather it gets rained on. no rain and it will be green plus dry. dryness is the most important. plus depends what you are cutting hay with... mower and you can rake in one day, haybine 2-3 days all depending on hay type and thickness. swather well that takes a week to dry heavy hay.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok, got another question. Can you control when the bale is ejected from the baler or does it kick them out automatically? I have one field that has a pretty good slope and I'm thinking a bale could take off rolling down the hill and through the fence.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had 3 rollers over the years. 1 Hesston and 2 JDs. The first one, a JD 530 rolled a 5x6 (1600# max) and had a console that mounted in
the cab whereby you could monitor the activity. When I retired I sold it and bought a JD 375 which rolls a 5x4 (775# max). Both must have
been open throat as I could roll up to anything and they would gobble it up. The Hesston would just sit there and stare at it trying to make
up it's mind if it wanted to eat it or not.

Both were used and probably sat out in the weather for years. Both had dents in the front sheetmetal where POs had not kept the chains
oiled and they broke loose and dented the front....no biggie, when purchased had good chains which I lube before every job. From time to
time a bearing would go out on a roller. I changed bearings working alone, not that much of a problem. Basically trouble free machines
that do a good roll. Green is all you see around these parts....must do the job!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mountaindog wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:32:28 06/13/18) Ok, got another question. Can you control when the bale is ejected from the baler or does it kick them out automatically? I have one field that has a pretty good slope and I'm thinking a bale could take off rolling down the hill and through the fence.


On JD rd baler bale can be wrapped/ejected at any size between 3' & 6' set to wrap automatically or controlled by operator. Bale ejection is controlled by operator.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Once the bale has reached the proper size it's time to wrap the twine or net around it, some twine wrap balers do that automatically, others will sound a alarm on the monitor for the operator to activate the wrapping process.

We bale on some sloping ground here in Ky were run away bales can be a problem, most times if I'm concerned about the bale rolling off I'll back the baler around sideways to the slope before ejecting the bale, in some cases I've pulled out of the windrow and drove to flatter ground to eject the bale and than drove back to the windrow.
Bale ejection is done using the tractors hydraulic remotes controlled by the operator.

For your size tractor I'd look at balers that make 4x4 or 4x5 bales, anything bigger will need a larger tractor.
Get a brand that has local dealer support for your area.
I recommend you stay with one of the four major brands JD, NH, Hesston, Vermeer.
I've only owned NH, and Hesston brands.
NH 630-640 series are good old balers, if you look at the older NH bar balers make sure it has auto-wrap, personally I wouldn't want one with manual tie.
I rolled many bales pulling a NH640 with a 52 hp 4000 Ford tractor.
Hesston 530-540 series are also good, 5540 series where good balers but hay had to be perfect or it would wrap around the starter roll and lock up the baler, I've had to cut hay off of that roll to many times.
As for JD and Vermeer maybe someone will chime in on models they would recommend.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


As for waiting so long for hay to dry I recommend you look at getting a tedder, they pick the hay up off the ground and fluff it allowing air to dry the hay.

MIL's farm is flat and stays wet, last year we would ted hay each morning and give it a couple hours to dry, then we would rake and bale, we had dry hay dust coming from the baler and water running off the tires, none of the hay was moldy went it was feed.
That's how must difference a tedder makes.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had the same problem a few years back. Even raking it twice it too at least 4 days to dry, hot humid usually here in central KY.
I bought a 2 basket tedder cut one day ted the next morning bale that afternoon or the next day.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you can stop and tie the bale at any size u please. then you must open the rear door and touch the pto to kick out the bale. with these old balers you have to back up a bit for each bale, because you need to move forward to close the door. new balers have a ramp they roll down and backing up is not nessesary.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Round balers can bale hay a little greener with no problems. dryer hay is harder to bale.
I have used Vermeer and New Holland belt balers. The New Holland is easier to run, makes a better Bale and has less problems.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I picked up a John Deere 375 today in very good condition. Its a one owner machine originally purchased from a local John Deere dealer. Somebody had mentioned about there should be three steps in the belts. I can definitely see the three steps. The outside two belts are in need of new connecting pins but other than that it looks great.
It was late till I got it home so couldn't try it out but I have 11 acres laying on the ground ready to be baled tomorrow.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Good luck with your new purchase, hope it does a good job for you.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My JD 375 bales both without batting an eye. Just finished 2 turns and pop, SS............And the leaves stayed intact...another benefit of the "GMO" crop.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We made about 60 bales today. Baler worked flawlessly. should have bought a round baler years ago. So the only issue I have is with the twine wrap. Apparently there is nothing to tie the twine to the bale. The hydraulic arm wraps the twine around the bale but looks like I have to hand tie every bale before I try to pick them up tomorrow.....ask me how I know Rolling Eyes Or am I missing something?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


That's all any of them do, they just wrap twine around the bale several times and that's it, the ends are not tied.
Although the ends are loose the twine won't get loose and fall off.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Educate me on round balers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maybe I'm not putting enough string around the bale?? I run the bar twice each direction before I cut it off. Is that enough?
 
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