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Mike Darlington
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi all,
We recently had the pleasure to purchase a TO30. It has a Wagner Loader system and everything seems to be working the way it should, which is a good thing. The tractor did not come with any attachments and recently we purchased a plow and a disc. The Ferguson System lets say missing, only thing left I can see is a broken off rod on the link. The link that pivots with a top and bottom pin hole(not a small pin hole like in a gas tank pinhole leak)holes for attaching the Ferg Syst and the 3 pt implement or plow in this case.
Question: Does the Ferg Sys need to be working to use the plow or disc? If so, I need help finding parts. Any help and/or advice is very much appreciated. Great forum that has been very helpful.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mike. Are you saying your three point linkage doesn't work? You can't pull a plough if your 3PL is not working. Your hydraulics must work if you have a workng loader.

Bob in Oz
 


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On the left side below the seat is a lever to operate the hydraulics. I can't remember if forward or reverse puts the hydraulics into motion that may be your problem. Hopefully it is as that would be a very inexpensive fix. Does your loader have a pump on the front of the tractor where it would hook up to the crankshaft?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The loader's hydraulics work off a pump in the front and it is working fine.
The 3 pt system is working as well. Sorry for the confusion. My question concerns the rocker assembly and the hydraulic lift covers and controls. I used the terms from the parts book this time. The attachment is pinned on the bottom and the hydraulic lift yoke is pinned at the top. The yoke is mounted to the rocker and there is part of the lift spring control plunger showing. There is nothing in between, no spring,no lift spring spacer. So that function of the tractor cannot work. We used a rear blade on the 3 pt hitch and it worked fine. We now have a single bottom plow and a disc. Can we use those attachments without that system connected and functioning? Thanks for answering my questions.
I'll try and get a pic uploaded.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So what your saying is you need to adjust the draft control plunger to take up the slack in the spring? With excessive clearance the lift will still work but the automatic draft control won"t work properly. With an implement such as a 2 bottom plow raised there should be .020 clearance between the spring and the plunger. More than likely you will have to heat the plunger cherry red to get it turn. They have been on there too many years without being adjusted or greased and it is probably rusted up tight. If it seems like it will not turn do not force it. You can bend the fork and do other damage. Heat and rust penetrant will be your friend on this job.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It is missing the spring and hardware between the yoke and plunger. The only thing connecting the yoke at the rocker and the plunger is air. I hope to get a pic tomorrow. There is a block for added weight to push snow, hopefully I will be able to remove it and take a decent pic. Thanks for your time answering my questions.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have included a pic from the Operators Manual. I hope this will clear up my question. I am missing everything between the yoke and plunger. There is no spring, no spacer, nothing there. Just a few remnants of what used to be. As a result the Ferguson System is not functional. Is it safe to use our recently purchased single bottom plow and a disc. Not at the same time, I know that much, J/K. Thoughts?
Thanks

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Ferguson System Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You won"t be able to use it like it is currently because every time the plow hit encountered any resistance it would transfer the energy thru the top link to the yoke and draft spring and it would cause the plow to lift which is what it is supposed to do.Since you don"t have the spring the plow would constantly be trying to lift out of the ground because the spring isn"t there to add resistance to the top link forces. If you tried hooking it below the yoke or any other way the tractor will just try to flip over backwards. I wouldn"t try to use it until I got all the pieces installed back on it. Luckily those pieces are quite easy to get.
 
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