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Diesel Dude
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I recently had the starter stay stuck engaged on tractor 24v starter and burned it up. took to electric shop they rebuilt it and replaced the bendix.This was not a cheap repair bill we all know.I installed it last summer no issues they again one day it stuck again but got the battery unhooked before it ran to long.Well we then parked the tractor to overhaul engine putting everything back to start tractor the other day and hooking up the second battery the starter engaged with out pushing button battery terminal arched and battery exploded. I tried another starter and it wants to do the same thing why is this happening????? where is my issue here please help.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like time for 12V conversion.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

10-4 on the 12 volt change over -- starts real good every time --
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Do the conversion. Before you do it, it will seem expensive. After you convert it, you will ask yourself why didn"t I do this a long time ago.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I agree if it's not a restoration "trailer queen" I'd convert it to 12 volts.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On the conversion, use the Denso starter, not the Delco that comes in most kits.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you checked to see if you have some melted or shorted wires, that are causing the solenoid to engage? Try unhooking the wire to the solenoid from the starting switch at the solenoid and check if it a has power when it's not supposed to.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You have a short someplace in the wiring? Look at the harness routing for someplace it has rubbed bare.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As others have said, convert to 12 volt and never look back. Sounds like the wiring harness has a bad spot somewhere that is shorting it out.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you all for the great replies I will inspect the wire harness and convert it over to 12v.any suggestions where to get a kit???
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote


You don't necessarily need a "kit" just a 12 V starter that will fit a 4010 and a Delco alternator. A gear drive starter can be bought for a little over $300. Then be sure and attach the blue & brown wires in schematic to the top post on the solenoid with the 12V batteries hooked in parallel.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I buy the components from my local rebuilder and make what I need for wiring and cables. Cheaper than any of the kits I have seen. Starter, start relay, alternator, and alternator pulley are the parts needed. I modify the alternator bracket and use a single pulley. If you get the right double pulley you can use the bracket without modification. I make my own battery cables but you can buy ready made just measure the length you need. If you know what you are doing you can make the wiring harness for a fraction of the cost of a ready made one.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Good point Cliff as I forgot to mention the needed extra starter relay that will give the original starter solenoid excite wire more amps.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bought my starter from Deere and fabricated the mounting brackets. The wiring changes are super simple. I would go with a 3 wire alternator and hook up the charging light.

The guys on here should be able to help you with the starter model.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: 4010 diesel starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Went thru the same thing on my 4010 last year. With advice and help from the guys on this forum, I converted mine over to 12 volt. I have some tips and some pics that might help you out when you get ready to do your conversion if you are interested. My email is gwece@wecefarms.com

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