Tractor   
 Parts
We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  Click Here or call 800-853-2651
Yesterday's Tractors

   Allis Chalmers Case Cockshutt Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   H. Ferguson John Deere Massey Minn. Moline Oliver All The Rest

Marketplace
Tractor Manuals
Tractor Parts
Classified Ads
Photo Ads

Shop for Parts:

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journal
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
3-Point Specs
Paint Codes
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Related Sites
The Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford N-Series Club
Garden Tractors
Today's Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life

Enter your email address to receive our newsletter!
subscribe
unsubscribe

Content Guide
Picture List - TOC
Ad Archives - TOC
Manuals - TOC

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

This is the modern view of the Yesterday's Tractors Forums. Just login with your YT Userid and password to post. If you have trouble logging in, contact us by email to support at ytmag.com, or through the Reader Form, and we will get you going right away.

I made a dump trailer (pics)
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Tool Talk
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Justin SE IOWA
Long Time User


Joined: 21 Sep 2010
Posts: 574
Location: Oskaloosa Iowa

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I took a flare box and made a gooseneck trailer for it. I used 2x4 tubing 1/4 wall. All gussets are 1/4" also. Hinge brackets and 1" pipe 3/16" wall and I put a greese zirk on each one. I have about 30 hours in it and built it on my lunch hour at work. I have hauled 6200lbs in it and it pulls like a dream!


The main frame


My axle


Axle mounted to frame



Uprights welded on


Top frame welded on


Gooseneck welded on



Jack off a semi. It didn't go low enough so I made an extenstion for it.


Frame done and painted



Fenders made from 1/8" sheet steal



1/2" EMT conduit for the taillight wires


Finished product
 
Back to top
View user's profile
bobpa
Guest






Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Very nice job Justin. Looks good.
 
Back to top
Roger in Iowa
Long Time User


Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 1317


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks good!
Did you pull the axle shafts out and cut them off? Or you can just make a plate and seal the axle housing each end. Saves turning all the gears in the pumpkin. Could even gut the pumpkin and sell the parts.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
IrvIA
Regular


Joined: 30 Dec 2012
Posts: 225


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's really nice, especially the repurpose of a flare box wagon..nice and slick on the inside.

Irv
 
Back to top
View user's profile
johnpop1
Guest






Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A few comments from the peanut gallery, if I may.
Your paint and attention to detail looks very
nice. I am suspicious that a 2x4 box tube will be
your undoing in the long run. There isn't enough
bending strength for the long haul. You may get
away with it under the box but I think that after
some hard miles with a load, you will get bending
in the tubes on the gooseneck. There is a reason
why the pros use heavy c channel. Like I said, it
looks really nice and will probably serve you well
if you only load it lightly.
 
Back to top
Puddles
Tractor Expert


Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Posts: 1877


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You better start thinking of how your going to build a truss to go on top of the gooseneck! When I built my gooseneck adapter I used 12x19 beams. It is only a 14,000-lb trailer.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
jon f mn
Tractor Expert


Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 2220


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think that with the 1/4 wall tube that part will
be fine. He has the axle nearly centered so there
won.t be a lot of tonge weight, and he has it
gussetted right to take the pull. If there is a
problem it will be that he needs a cross member or
two in the gooseneck to keep them from flexing
from side pull. If he gets one of those wheels in
a hole or in the mud he could flex those tubes
sideways enough to be a problem. They could also
start to wobble from road vibration without the
stiffeners too. But over all a very well done rig.
 
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
jon f mn
Tractor Expert


Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 2220


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would also like to see 4 gussets in each of the corners of the uprights to keep that square. Again corners are going to put a lot of side pressure on that part. Anytime you stress a structure to it's max like here you have to have the support structure perfect to keep everything straight. I would hate to see something this nice fail for lack of a couple little missing pieces.
 
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
Brad Buchanan
Long Time User


Joined: 15 Apr 2010
Posts: 712


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey Justin.

Beautiful work!

I like to use square or rectangle tubing also. It looks great and is stronger than c-channel in regards to twisting and odd angle loads.

Great attention to detail and a machine to be proud of.

Brad
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Puddles
Tractor Expert


Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Posts: 1877


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is a uniform load chart for 2”x4” with 3/8” wall rectangular tube. Remember now these are static loads, I have no idea what dynamic loads would be! These are also in kips.
So lets say he has an 8-feet span, take the lower number of 6.4. Generally with these uniform load charts you divide in half for point loads, which that is what we have here. So now we have 3.2. But we have two pieces of rectangular tube, so we are back up to 6.4. So that is six thousand 400 pounds of static load. Anybody want to calculate for a dynamic load?


 
Back to top
View user's profile
jon f mn
Tractor Expert


Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 2220


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's a trailer I built with 2x4x1/4 tube. It's
still in use after about 18 years.

 
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
Dick L
Tractor Guru


Joined: 01 Sep 1999
Posts: 8663
Location: Edon Ohio

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it were mine which it aint. I would load er up and see what happened. If it started to flex pulling under load I would cut out the front gussets, knotch the back gussets to take a rail like you have and weld it under the top one. Re weld the front gussets back under. and touch up the nice red paint. When the wheels hit a rut in the field loaded would be when it might flex down more than expected if it is going to.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
cd1
Regular


Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Posts: 438


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For only 6200 lbs in the bed I think you will be fine. The only thing I personally would have done different is a larger gusset at the front of the main frame into the vertical tubes but I can see why you didn't as your bed would have hit them which you could have used flat iron to basically truss out around the corner but in all reality you will probably be fine. I think a lot of people on here would be amazed at how light most commercial trailers are. There is a balance between weight and load capacity, if you over build it like crazy that just takes away from your cargo capacity for no reason.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Puddles
Tractor Expert


Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Posts: 1877


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

cd1 you might want to look at what a professionally built gooseneck trailer looks like. Wink

http://www.pjtrailers.com/trailers/goosenecks/

http://bigtextrailers.com/trailers/goosenecks.html
 
Back to top
View user's profile
jon f mn
Tractor Expert


Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 2220


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: I made a dump trailer (pics) Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here ya go. My degree comes from the school of hard knocks and life lessons. It's certified by real life experience and a few pictures for you.









 
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Tool Talk All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Discount Prices for Parts! You can help support this extensive website by purchasing your tractor parts, manuals and merchandise from our [ Antique Tractor Store ] or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ More Info ]

YT Home | Tractor Manuals | Tractor Parts | Forum Home

Copyright © 1997-2013 Yesterday's Tractor Co. - A Washington State Corporation

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters