Yesterday's Tractor Co. Parts for Farm Tractors - Compare our Prices!
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

stuck motor on a 190

Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello, im interested in a 190 a guy has for sale near me, motor is froze, he want s 1500. I need a tractor to run a irrigation pump, and small sq. baler. Is 1500 in the right price range?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
old
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Mar 2000
Posts: 56981
Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gas or diesel??? In my area the 190XT at best brings around $2500 in good running shape. So unless that has very very good tires and a cab etc seems a tad bit high. But again being gas or diesel makes a difference also and if diesel and stuck could well cost a grand or more to fix since the injector pumps on them are known to get bad seals which is turn locks up the engine and the cost to rebuild can be $800 plus
 
Back to top
View user's profile
JMS/.MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 7945


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is it a 190 or 190XT? About 30 hp difference in the two. Also, Series III had the heavier rear end......some I and II were updated.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
steve alderman
Regular


Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Posts: 210


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

and also the o rings on the liners start to go also usualy number 1 cylinder
 
Back to top
View user's profile
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

190 diesel. Is it easy to tell the difference in rearends?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Its a diesel. So the pump locks up wich locks the motor up. correct me if im wrong.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
JMS/.MN
Tractor Guru


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 7945


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I"m not sure if there is a difference in axle size. I understand it"s something about going to a 3 cluster gear in the finals instead of a single. All I know for sure is that it should be looked in to on the XT, cuz of the higher HP. Maybe hard to find a dealer that would still know.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
old
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Mar 2000
Posts: 56981
Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No the pump being a rhooser master pump it does not lock up but the seals go bad dumping raw diesel fuel in the cylinders which is turn thins out the oil and that in turn causes the engine to lock up. BTDT on a 190XT. Cost me a tad over $800 the have the injector pump rebuilt. In the mine time I pulled the injectors out and filled each cylinder with turpentine and let it sit a few days. Then I set a big 12 volt battery on and hit the starter button. My big mistake was to leave the injector sitting in the engine but not in tight and I had to chase 2 or 3 of them because that engine spun over. Installed injector pump bled the air out and she run like a dream. Sold it because it was way to much tractor for 44 acres of farm
 
Back to top
View user's profile
old
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Mar 2000
Posts: 56981
Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

One of the big problems with the early 190s and 190XT was a weak transmission and they would jump out of gear and the fix cost more then the tractor was worth
 
Back to top
View user's profile
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you for explaining that to me. i thought i could get him to go down.on the price cause he's had it for awhile. and just fill the cylinders up with atf or diesel, maybe if I by it I'll try turpentine.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
old
Tractor Guru


Joined: 12 Mar 2000
Posts: 56981
Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yep turpentine for diesels and ATF for gas engines or a mix of them
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Eldon (WA)
Long Time User


Joined: 11 Apr 2010
Posts: 981
Location: washington

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

montanakid1992 wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:04:34 03/26/13) Hello, im interested in a 190 a guy has for sale near me, motor is froze, he want s 1500. I need a tractor to run a irrigation pump, and small sq. baler. Is 1500 in the right price range?

I saw that one....looks like it has sat awhile and is missing some parts. Tough to tell how the tranny is when it isn't running....I'd consider it a parts tractor.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think I'll look around for something else to spen my money
on, where you from?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
montanakid1992
Regular


Joined: 05 Dec 2011
Posts: 35


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think I'll look around for something else to spen my money
on, where you from?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Eldon (WA)
Long Time User


Joined: 11 Apr 2010
Posts: 981
Location: washington

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck motor on a 190 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

montanakid1992 wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:50:46 03/28/13) I think I'll look around for something else to spen my money
on, where you from?

I'm near Spokane, WA
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Allis Chalmers All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651.

YT Home  |  Forums Home

Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters