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A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33

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GB in MT.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

After approx. 5 1/2 yrs of overhauling M/S carbs, I have actually called it quits, on a rusted up TSX33. I called the owner and told him that, there isn't anything more I can do for this one......:
Pic. of the aftermath, and giving up on it!!....:

Throttle rod, and choke rod seized up by rust, and had to use a Dremmal cutter blade to extract them.!! (saved the rusty throttle plate and choke plate...not usable)
Vertually all the screw heads broke off, of the throttle, & choke plates! Also the thottlebody to bowl screws,...(all four),...broke off, just under the throttlebody mateing surface.
The main nozzel is rusted in place and even with trying to loosen it up with heat and PB Blaster....it will not budge!!!!
Mating surfaces on the top and bowl are rust-deteriated, as is the float, holding bars.....one side rust damaged and will not receive the float att. pin!!

At this point, I quit working on it, as I am not set up to re-manufacture these carbs.......overhauling them can sometimes, give a feller a sinking feeling in his gut!!!!!!!!

BTW...:..the only parts, that I think are reusable, are the floats...(not too sure about those)...and the venturi, cleaned up with a Dremmal cup brush.
LOTS of cast iron lost to the insides of this one!!!! You can see that by the amount of rust powder that came out of the bowl.

The owner is now trying to find a rebuildable TSX241B, that I can overhaul.....(If anyone has one to let go of,.....let me know!!!!)

Gary....(finally found one I cannot make work!!!!) Shocked Sad

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Commend it back to the earth from whence it came...Just more proof of the concept of entropy.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

can't remember? do you use an electrolysis bath?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Think of it as the tractor that feeds the children of the planet. They need you don,t let it beat you.

“If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.”
“Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall.”
“When you are going through hell, keep on going. Never never never give up.”
“Never let your head hang down. Never give up or sit down and grieve. Find another way.”
“Winners never quit, and quitters never win.”

or just junk it!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

soundguy wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:48:37 04/16/13) can't remember? do you use an electrolysis bath?

S...G....;
Nope
#1 the missing cast iron, is a dead area for trying to resurect this cab....(too much damage to the mating areas, and float bar, needs to be completely replaced)
#2 Got no place to set up a El. bath.....too many pets around here and the people around here would pitch a fit if left out un-attended!!! NOT to mention the Kids!!!

Gary


 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i've had good luck on some rusted CI parts where I ELT'd them.. then used solder or braze to fill in a bad flange.

mind you that's way way too much work on a carb.. .. just saying.


oh well..can't save them all.

i have one off my 660 that was green coroded on the inside after the switch to ethanol gas. i couldn't ever get that carb to run right.. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You would be preforming miracles if you fixed that one. First time I've seen the work bench dirty, but it's still neat. Razz
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

might make a cool ash tray
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a TSX241 but I will have to check to see which one it is. I'm pretty sure it is a 241B. It was on my Ferguson 20 when I bought it. I may have stolen a part or two off of it when rebuilding my TSX458, but I think its mostly there. I can check if you want.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gary: would my "old" carb be of any use?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tom in MO wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:02:04 04/16/13) Gary: would my "old" carb be of any use?

Tom;
Thank you for the offer, BUT, I think that his carb is going to be replaced by an M/S TSX 241B, and he was just going to use this carb as a back-up after he found what he wants for the main carb.
Thanks for thinking of me, anyway!!!

Gary Smile

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jason S. wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:58:04 04/16/13) I have a TSX241 but I will have to check to see which one it is. I'm pretty sure it is a 241B. It was on my Ferguson 20 when I bought it. I may have stolen a part or two off of it when rebuilding my TSX458, but I think its mostly there. I can check if you want.

Jason;
A TSX241, on a Ferguson????????? VERY interesting!!!!!!!!! I just sent out a TSX361 for a Ferggie TO20, that will be replacing a broken carb, and the 361 looked to me exactly like the TSX33.....plumbing and all???????

If you find that the 241 is actually a 241B, then YES I would be interested in that carb!!!!
Give me a call @ 1-406-210-0129.....my cell, and we can discuss this possibility!!!!

Gary Very Happy

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Everything must die some time. Today is that carb"s
day. Looks like it has been underwater for a while.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I say send it to soundguy he says its fixable and this would be a good test for his electrol thingeee, Ill pay the shipping just let me know how much GB. The Seriously!!!!!! LB
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: A first, for the carb shack...Death of a TSX33 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I came home and looked. It"s a TSX241A. I"m sorry, I
thought it was a B.
 
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