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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:46 pm    Post subject: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking at a 2090 coming up at an auction.
How do they compare to a 1070 other than age?
Those of you who have had both, which would you rather have?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have had both. 1070 that Dad bought new and a
2290 we got with a thousand hours on it at the
time.

HANDS DOWN 2290!!

1070 was bull and pinion final drive 90 is
planetary. 2290 has a pod mounted cab 10 has the
dash attached to the rest of the tractor, as they
aged it made a huge difference in noise and heat.
Don't even get me started on servicing the
batteries, nothing to it on a 90 series.

Other than the final drives there isn't much
difference mechanically. 2290 has 22 horse on a
1070, also has a turbo.

jm2cw

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Oh yeah 1070 was traded on a 2294 and 2290 is still working on my farm.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

big jt wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:22:09 04/19/13) I have had both. 1070 that Dad bought new and a
2290 we got with a thousand hours on it at the
time.

Other than the final drives there isn't much
difference mechanically. 2290 has 22 horse on a
1070, also has a turbo.

jm2cw

jt

But he is asking about the smaller 2090. The 2090 is actually rated a couple of horsepower less than the 1070. I've never had or run a 1070 but from what I have seen and heard the 2090 should handle just as much load as the 1070, it is a bigger engine (504 non turbo). My 2090 has gone well over 7000 hours on the original engine and seems good for a few thousand more.
Yes, 90 series cabs are a big improvement on the 70 series. Engine service is a lot easier with the lifting hood of the 90 series. Better brakes too. Wet brakes on the 90 series. Never had to adjust or repair anything on the brakes of my 2090. 70 series I believe are dry and subject to burning out if you forget to release the park brake.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have had a 1070 since '84 and 2094 for 5 years. The 1070 is a great chore tractor; lots of power matched to weight. Easy to maneuver. Much easier to feather the brakes, PTO, and hydraulics on the 1070 compared to the 2094. 2094 has a much better cab, battery access, hood access, and A/C. 2094 is on a longer frame and handles like a big field tractor. 1070 may cost you a rear end repair if it has not had the updates and they used it on tillage equipment without lifting properly while turning.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have had a 1070 since "84 and 2094 for 5 years. The 1070 is a great chore tractor; lots of power matched to weight. Easy to maneuver. Much easier to feather the brakes, PTO, and hydraulics on the 1070 compared to the 2094. 2094 has a much better cab, battery access, hood access, and A/C. 2094 is on a longer frame and handles like a big field tractor. 1070 may cost you a rear end repair if it has not had the updates and they used it on tillage equipment without lifting properly while turning.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The guys below make a lot of good points but the one not mentioned here is price. What do you have to spend? If $$ aren't a factor then go new and there will be no comparrison at all. You can get a very nice 1070 ,if you have time to shop a little, for $ 8000-$ 9000 ready to go to work. I believe you may be looking at the $ 12,000 - $ 14,000 range for a good 2090 if you can find someone willing to let one go. I'm talking good tires,paint and no problems on these. Also, don't even look at the dealer classifieds, lot of junk. Why do you think they trade to a dealer in the first place. Anyone who has a "good" tractor for sale will never have to advertise it as there will always be a neighbor or someone in the coffee shop who will have a buyer. Vehicles are the same way , people trade them in to a dealer because they can live with their concience about the problems it has because most dealers don't have any themselves. You can find both these tractors for $ 5000- $ 6000 if you want a fixer upper. For the price, I think the 970-1070 are one of the best "values" in a 100 hp class tractor out there.(but they are going up fast)(I've got one of each)
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As I read the other posts thought of one advantage
to the 1070. 1070 does have a foot accelerator and
2290 doesn't and no good way to add one. That is
about the only thing I miss from the 1070.

Also sorry I missed you were asking about 2090.
Those of course are comparible in HP and no Turbo.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In our area 970/1070 with loaders are in the $6000-$11000 range and the 2090's are going $7000-$14000 with loaders, not including the junk or the showroom mint units.
When considering hours, condition, tires etc they both seem to be close enough in price that either one would be an option for what I want.
Timbernt mentioned the 2090 has a longer frame and handles like a big field tractor. I can't see that being a big deal for pulling a baler but for feeding in tight mucky pens it might be an issue.
Horsepower wise a 970 is big enough for most of what I do but a few more ponies would be nice, which is why I am considering going up a class.
Thanks to all for your feedback and comments.
Dave
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it were me I would go for a 2090, as many of the people have pointed out they will be a little more expensive but not that much more. I also think that you will find that the 2090 will start better for you in cold weather than the 1070, I don't know if that applies where you live or not but thought I would mention it. Some of the guys have mentioned that the 2090 has a longer wheel base but I have never felt that our 1070 can turn any shorter. The 2090 has a FAR superior hydraulic system. All in all I think that in the long run you will like the 2090 much more, I watched a very well cared for one sell on a sale not far from us a couple weeks ago for $8500, if I had a use for it I would have bought it but I have to many in that HP range already lol.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 2090 vs 1070 Reply to specific post Reply with quote


2090 will be better for baling, alot smoother riding w/ longer frame and your back will thank you later.
 
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