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Case 530 CK won't start


 
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smittydog
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Case 530 CK won't start Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello all...

I inherited my fathers projects One of which is a Case 530 CK with 188 diesel engine. Dad had the injectors out about three years ago and never put them back in. He was also correcting valve timing. (note, the injector openings were left open-but the cover and a rubber mat were over the engine, so moisture could have made the rings stuck on the pistons)

So, this past few weeks, I have been going to farm and working on it. Had the starter rebuilt, replaced the solenoid and ran new wiring where needed, also replaced the ignition switch.

We verified the correct valve settings (per case manual), put the injectors back in with new seals, also blew out the fuel lines and put new fuel filter on. I bled the fuel line at the injector pump. We get fuel flow to that point. Now, with new battery and battery charger/starter, we are able to crank the engine over, but no luck. Very small, small puff of smoke, at one point acts like it wants to start, but no dice. We are using either (I know, it will blow a hole in the block if overused). My dad put in a small oil cup in the intake for just such cold weather starts, that you squirt the either in. His idea, not mine, but it has worked in the past.

Now, two things I didn't do...check compression and pull the injectors to verify that the fuel is going into cylinders ( I didn't have one). I now have a compression tester and adapter for 188 engine (long tube insert) so I can test compression in it this weekend. At that time I will also be able to check for fuel coming out of the injectors.

I would think that even if it was not getting fuel, it would have started briefly from the either. Correct? By the engine NOT developing compression, the engine can't start. So I am thinking that the rings are stuck or seated to the pistons? (since my dad never put anything in the injector holes for three years and moisture probably crept in and rusted the rings to the pistons)

I also want to spray in some SeaFoam Deep Creep or manifold cleaner to see if it will free the rings.

New to this diesel thing, but I got our Case 450 bulldozer going this past winter. (it also has the same engine, a 188 diesel).

Am I on the right track? Any other ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance
Steve
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 530 CK won't start Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The engine will not run on ether alone,the most likely thing thats wrong is the fuel metering valve in the injector pump is stuck in the stop position,try bleeding the pipes first,loosen each injector pipe at the injectors a few turns,on full throttle crank the engine over on the starter,there should be a spurt of fuel from each pipe union,if it does spurt the fuel out tighten up the nuts and the engine will probably start,if there is no spurt the top cover of the pump needs to be taken off and the metering valve moved to the run position,the valve will stick in the stop position if when the engine was stopped it was left there,there are two pipes attached to each injector,the ones you need to loosen are the biggest of the two that the bottom ends are attached the pump.
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AJ
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Case 530 CK won't start Reply to specific post Reply with quote

my money is on air not bled out good enough. if it's a dry clutch tractor crank the starter and lift the loader and hoe off the ground then pull start it with another machine. saves a lot of wear on the starter.
 
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