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buddyt New User
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:14 pm Post subject: 220 Dagenham Ford Industrial Diesel |
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I have a old drilling rig that has a 220 cid for Dagenham diesel 1963 with a 4 speed transmission. The motor started knocking and we pulled it down to find a bearing on the rod cap bad. I took it to the machine shop to get a possible crank turned and have not received the information back as to if it can be fixed. I belive I can find the Over haul kit from Agkits, but I need to get this piece of equipment back up and have had no luck in finding a motor here in Florida. I was told that the bell housing is the same pattern as a 242, 254 Dorset Diesel, and 254 Dover. Can anyone help send me in the right direction to possibly find another motor? |
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Robert Major Tractor Expert
Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 1858 Location: Manitoba , Canada
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: 220 Dagenham Ford Industrial Diesel |
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Hi
it is possible to buy a new crank on ebay for that motor for about $350 ish plus shipping. I think A&I parts do one as well but it"s more like $750.
A&I parts Do the oil pump to that"s about $150, plus your re build kit. It"s cheaper for me to buy new cranks than grind old ones now here in Canada.
The Dover and Dorset bell housing pattern should be the same if yours looks more like a perfect circle rather than more egg shaped at the bottom, like the old cast iron tractor pans are. Some truck aplications also had a slant oil pan to, you need an upright pan im guessing for your job .
The motor mountings might need work, and the water pump is off center on both the Dover and Dorsets I have. so you might have to work on the fan shroud,fan and the water outlet on the rad bottom, is the opposite side with mine too.
The oil pump was moved from the front right on your engine to not quite the back right on those newer ones too. so if the pan on yours is special for under clearance you can"t swap them over either.
you might have a hard time finding a newer 4 cyl around they don"t seem to be that common in North america. both my 4's came direct from the uk. my 6cyl turbo's came from New Holland TR 70 combines in Canada.
There are more 220's and parts around as diesel versions are in the major series tractors with some modifications along the way. industrial"s had some head/intake and injection equipment changes different to tractors to though.
my advice would be get the parts and do yours it might be quicker to fix what you got, than end up with a whole load of headaches trying to find and fit the newer engine. Then find ya back in a mess when that"s no better than what you got now.
I"ve messed with a few of these newer motors over the years putting 4 and 6 cyls in majors. it"s not an easy fun swap.
If you have more questions I'll try and help just ask.
Regards Robert |
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buddyt New User
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:49 am Post subject: Re: 220 Dagenham Ford Industrial Diesel |
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thebigyellowtruck Long Time User
Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 551 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:59 am Post subject: Re: 220 Dagenham Ford Industrial Diesel |
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We try to do as many in house repairs as possible at the excavating company that I work for. We have had real good luck finding aftermarket parts at good prices through RF engine and reliableaftermarketparts.com
Check out both websites to get their phone numbers. They're both good companies to work with and had the best prices around for our heavy truck and equipment engine parts.
R.F. Engine
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Haley Long Time User
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: 220 Dagenham Ford Industrial Diesel |
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Look on the web for 4cyl Dorsets under "Marine".Lots of the 4 and 6 cly were used in boats of all types.Bomac marine in Blairsville Ga may be able to help you with bearings,gaskets.etc.Hope this helps. |
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