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randy1
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

2 questions 1st one how is all this rain in pa affecting the hay that hasnt been cut yet? especially the timothy ,alfalfa, grass hays I feed horses. 2nd question I bought hay last week small square bales and it didnt come apart in flakes it ws all intertwined real long pieces what is the eason for this? thank you
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If flakes(blocks) weren't evident I suspect that the windrows were extra large causing minimal number of plunger head strokes per bale or operator was baling at too fast a ground speed.
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The hay that has not been cut yet is getting old and coarse, with lower potien, but your horse can be fed some grain to make up for poor hay quality. #2 the hay will not come apart, could be just long crappy hay, or baled at too high a moistur. Hay can be baled at higher moistur levels in small squares if the are put on a hay drier for a month or to. Very common 30 years ago,but eletric pirce has made this costly, there are othe things you can do to make hay,wet wraped pr chopped haylage for example.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Same here, if we do not get a break, price will go up, quality down. There are a bunch of nice stands of hay near me, were just about right, but impossible to bale until this rain lets up.

You lose nutrition, coarse and stalky, though, timothy is usually heads out later, that helps, but the darned rain needs to cease. Some around here were able to get a crop in, early or on time, at the end of May, but it was so dry, what would usually be an ideal cutting, was stunted, so there was not enough in the fields. I think it varied, hill fields not as moist, some hay producers, posted photos of their crop then, while listing for sale, some nice hay, but no one has made any since, rain and 90% humidity has been a constant for the month of June.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dull knives on the baler.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Everyday here in NE Ohio it makes me sick to look at the 10 day forecast... Looks like I"ll never get the rest of my hay up...

Edit: I also blame the Trumbull County Fair. Always rains during fair week. Normally it would be going on right now but they moved it ahead a week from last year. So now it'll prolly rain for another 2 weeks....
 


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here on the Ma+Pa, I've got 20 down and wet, and about 20 to cut yet. About ten, so far, won't even go into the barn. This next twenty probably won't, and then, what's left probably won't. I'll have to look forward to a decent second and maybe a third cutting late. At least, the cows will still eat this low grade stuff, and it looks like my sileage ought to be great. But there will be a lot left for the mushroom houses next year- only about 1/3 of my first will go into the barn,
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I sure wish you guys would send the moisture this way. Or even better, send it out to Utah, Arizona, and Colorado!!!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

THe weather here has been the same way. It rains every other day. We did manage to get 5o acres done but it was a struggle. It was down for a week, and ended up being round bales. They're calling for rain all this week as well. We normally do around 25000 bales, small squares, that we sell out of state, haven't baled any. Last year we were done with first cut by now. I hope it turns around soon. On a positive note I've had lots of time to work on the equipment and finally got a mow conveyor up in the barn. I'm in NNY by the way.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yep, outa about 1800 bales from my 1st crop, I've got about 350 in the barn, the rest are dumped or going to the village farm for bedding.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Randy, The hay you describe sounds like grass that is past it's prime. That grass would be very tall and stringy when baled. As Tx Jim says, baled too fast with too much in the baler at one time. Those long strands bend over in the bale case and tie the blocks together. Good first cutting grass hay is hard to come by here in Lehigh County, Most was cut on the late side. My second cutting Alfalfa Grass is ready to cut but the weather just is awfull for hay. I don't know where you are from but if you ever get to Kutztown Auction, I will be there.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: hay Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree with this. Most likely the late cutting has produced so much hay the baler is operating at capacity. I ran into this a lot with with my old baler this year. Even with windrows only 6' apart the brome was so heavy in NE Kansas 1st gear was to fast for the baler. I'm hoping I some adjustment left in the clutch.
 
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