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What haybine to get?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Going to be looking for a haybine this fall discbine will be to expensive. Was looking at the 488 can find them for $1200 to $2800 in west central Wisconsin. What is good or bad with this or should I look at a different make or model? Looking at the 9 to 12 foot range. Thank you for any help in this matter.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 488 is a good model. In fact, they still make them. I ran a used one for 20 years and had very little trouble with it. Liked it so well, I bought a new one last year. They are not expensive to operate and don"t require more than 50 HP to operate. I haven"t had much trouble with sickle maintenance and stub guards pretty much eliminate plugging.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can"t go wrong with a 488. I have one myself. That is probably one of the most popular haybines ever built. They are still in production to this day, so that"s saying something.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Real good machine. I d watch for slop in the gearbox though. There is a woodruff key in ther that will egg out the keyway and break the shaft.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't pass up a IH 990.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How many acres?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The John Deere 1207 and 1209's are also very good mowers. been using one of each for many years,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When we were putting up alfalfa we used the International 990. They were good cutters and required little attention. Now I use Kuhn disc cutters that are 10.5 feet wide.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would not pay a lot for one as their value is falling fast. I went from a 488 to a 6ft 8 in. 3 pt disc mower. The smaller disc mower cuts hay some much faster and so much cleaner. Really there is just no comparison. On this grass hay I can't see any difference not having the rollers. I just use a Pequea hay fluffer and it dries nice and green.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you're willing to spend 2800... and shop around you can probably get about as much disc mower as you're going to get for haybine in that price range. Buying any of them of the vintage that will be at that price is like buying a pig in a bag...
The biggest concern I'd have on any haybine is to make sure the wobble box is tight and not leaking. The Deere's were somewhat notorious for needing repair in that area. Check them over for bad bearings... rubber peeling from the rollers, etc.
If you do look at discbines, just make sure that the discs are tight on their shafts. It would also be good to pull the level/fill plugs from the top of the bar and see if there's oil in it or filings on the plug. If it's clean and has oil... there's not really any more to worry about than a haybine... An 8mm allen bit usually removes those plugs.
Constant velocity joints are also a good thing to check out if the machine has one... it's an expensive item to replace if it's bad. Running the machine up to speed will tell you a lot. Bad joints will vibrate... BAD.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hesston 1120. Or the CIH equivalent. 8330 I THINK was the number on those. When one of those laminated rolls or the wobble box on a New Holland comes apart on you,you'll find out why.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I will be doing 10 acres of grass and about 15 of alfalfa grass mix. Then baling with a 24T.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you're not really planning on getting any bigger, a sickle machine will probably work for you. But, if you think you'll grow, put that down as a down payment on a decent used discbine. It will allow you to expand and cut your field time tremendously. Unless you don't have any horsepower to run it, the sickle type haybine is OK. Look for a good 1209 or 1219 JD that isn't all beat up and have bald rolls. But do look for a machine that will 'float' over high stuff, unlike the older machines that on;y have vertical movement. Trying to find a machine that is still in good shape may take some looking.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 1985 NH488 that I purchased when it was 24 years old. I have been cutting with it for four years now with no trouble. It cost at the high end of your range, is easy to figure out and work on and maintain. It does not take much HP to run as others have said. If I were you I would pick up a good 488 or JD1209 if you are not planning on additional acreage in the next few years.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: What haybine to get? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had an old 495, worked great with downed crop, wish i still had it. if you can find one in good shape. Does require more HP and is not fun to switch from transport to field and back. Other than that, good machine, make sure bearings on Wobble assembly are in good shape.
 
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