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Push button or roll pin ORC?


 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is a push button ORC worth the extra $30-$40 over the roll pin kind?

I'm leaning towards a push button since they look a lot more substantial but hard to say since they only seem to exist on eBay and at Agri Supply, so there is no way to actually examine one prior to buying.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

kylemorley wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:16:31 07/27/13) Is a push button ORC worth the extra $30-$40 over the roll pin kind?

I'm leaning towards a push button since they look a lot more substantial but hard to say since they only seem to exist on eBay and at Agri Supply, so there is no way to actually examine one prior to buying.
Not to me. I install one once per mowing season & remove it once per season. Push-button types are also more mass hanging off the PTO to add slop & wobble rather than having mass actually up on the shaft. I guess they are for somebody though?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I put em on and leave them on so roll pin is fine. Anyone having a need to remove em on a regular basis, the answer would be yes for me--well worth the $30-$40 extra. Bottom line-it depends on how often u need to remove the orc for whatever reason..I have never taken mine off .
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I preferred the push pin type. No messing around with grease zerks and roll pins to install or remove it.
The only time I used an ORC was with the rotary cutter.
Didn't need one for finish mowing or post hole digger work.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ultradog MN wrote:
(quoted from post at 22:50:59 07/27/13) I preferred the push pin type. No messing around with grease zerks and roll pins to install or remove it.
The only time I used an ORC was with the rotary cutter.
Didn't need one for finish mowing or post hole digger work.
True, Jerry, didn't need it, but could have saved yourself some work, by realizing that it would have not hurt a thing & offered no advantage by removing it.
 


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Put on at start of mowing season off for winter so roll pin type on Sadie
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

About only reason to remove an ORC is an implement that contacts it when lifted.....not common.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have three 8Ns. None of them have the notch in the PTO shaft necessary to use the push button type ORC but all three have the hole for using the roll pin. Check your tractor should you decide to buy the push button type.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had to cut the pto shaft shorter on the brush mower so it would
work with the ORC.
When I upgraded to a newer tractor I had to replace the front half of
the pto shaft because without the orc it was too short.
I was glad I hadn't cut the shafts on the phd and finish mower.
Removing the orc is the only way to use the pto cover too.
On an N where you have to have the pto engaged to use the lift
I just thought it was safer to have the pto cover on and the push pin style made it easier to do so.
 


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Safety is the reason my ORC comes off after hay season and the cover goes back on... The roll pin isn't a hassle to deal with twice a year...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I never take the ORC off. The only implement I have that uses the PTO is my brush mower. And, since I have TOH's Hokie Hydraulics kit, the only time I have to turn on the PTO is when I need the PTO. So it's not spinning whenever I use the lift for other implements...... Live hydraulics is great!!!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Push button or roll pin ORC? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I notice some vendors are selling them with one of those pins which
have the semi circular retaining spring, in addition to the zerks and rollpin, so one can remove and
install it without wrenching.

Seems like a bad idea as it would let water into the innards, but I
suspect it can get in easily enough elsewhere.
 
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