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Justin SE IOWA
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I built a separate pen for a new calf and it is about 150 feet from my barn. I don't have electric or water there yet. I built a little 12' by 12' building for it. I am thinking of taking a 18" water pipe 5' long and capping one end. Then burying it 4' deep so 12" will be above ground. This will be inside the building so the wind wont get to it. I will haul water to fill it when needed. Will it still freeze?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Probably, and what happens if the calf stubbles and falls in a 5 foot deep hole.

Gary
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

in northern ky, when it gets cold enough, even the top of a pond will freeze. I think the ground will insulate whats below it, but the foot above will freeze. the stores around here like tsc sell a freezeless tank that has insulated balls the cows push down for a drink in cold weather.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yup, will freeze just like a lake.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anytime the temps get below freezing, water will freeze.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anytime the temps get below freezing, water will freeze.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

eddy52food wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:56:59 10/14/13) Anytime the temps get below freezing, water will freeze.


Then why do you see so much open water in so many places after it has been below freezing.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What if I leave the pipe ground level and build a cage in front of it so the calf can get his head in for a drink but not fall in? I can run an extension cord down there and use a tank heater but am trying to get away from that. A tank heater costs me a dollar a day for my wife's horse tank heater every winter.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Justin,
Most of the time heat rises, however it's a little different with water. The warmest water in a lake goes to the bottom, around 37 degrees. Water freezes from the top down. Sorry, I don't think your idea will work unless you have a way to bring the warm water up, some way to circulate the water.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Could be "spring" water, It is warmer than the air. Could also be "moving" water. Moving water doesn't have to move real fast to keep from freezing Unless the temp really get down there.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Heat travels through a conductor from high energy to low energy. Copper is a good conductor of heat. Just wondering, if you had many copper pipes in the water would that allow enough heat to rise two keep the water from freezing.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Put about 6" of slack coal(Fine stuff)around and under the pipe. Frost will not penetrate the cold. Put a ball on top of it that will move around, but still be a able to drink from. The Ball works great outside with a little wind.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like your chasing the Willow -THE- WISP. Don't mean to be offensive, but unless heating the tank or circulating the water, it will most likely freeze up on you. Hope you can succeed.
regards LOU.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When I was a kid we took a 10-15 galloh washtub.We
built a 'box' around it.The tank top was about 30-36
inches above the ground.We insulated the box,put a
60 watt lightbulb in the box.The water never
froze,even in the coldest temps.We carried water to
it in 5 gallon buckets.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Freeze proof water tank. Will this work? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it was simple, cheap and easy, you would be able to buy it in all the farms stores.
 
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