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dewy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

DID THE TRACTOR COMPANYS DO THE SAME AS THE CAR INDUSTRY , THEY USED TO,BUILD THEM WHERE THE COMMON SENSE OWNER COULD WORK ON THEM IF THEY WANTED OR HAD TO. YOU KNOW POOR PEOPLE.AND BUILT TO LAST. THEN THEY STOPPED THAT MENTALLITY. IF SO WHAT WERE THE YEARS. WHEN THEY STARTED ALL THE GADGETS CUMPUTERS.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Common sense no longer matters. Most of the electronic controls came into use as mandated by emissions standards set by the EPA, for tractors, as well as vehicles.

Oh, yeah, and here come the "Vibration Police"!

http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/19/08/2013/140609/eu-vibration-rules-set-to-limit-tractor-driving-time.htm
 


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Like Bob said, the mentality that dictates how today's tractors are built comes from DeeCee. Any questions?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Very simple if a person gets a degree to engineer something then now days he does not have a clue how to fix it. Now days what is sold is junk and can only be fixed by a guy who spends hours in schools looking at pictures and the time it takes is 100 times to much
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tractors need to be upgraded for finer controls as the use of them has changed as planters,sprayer and harvesting machinery needs more constant control then added safety also older ones didnt have fine control for PTO and ground speed and no way of knowing just what you had. The production of our food supply is way far more refined that in the past.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Walked thru Lowes' a few days ago, saw a display of gyroscopic electtric-cordless screwdrivers. I asked a clerk what the h***?? He din't know, Finally some other clerk showed us; you twist the thihg slightly left, it unscrews, you turn it slightly right, it screws in. I asked if it had GPS, Internet connectiability, and could send me a picture to me of what I was doing? And they seriously debated about it.
Good grief. No, do not put that on my Xmas list.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've had two failures of diesel fuel shut-off systems over the years.

One was on a 2005 JD compact utility- could have been 3 different modules, I guessed wrong the first time, ended up getting JD tech out, and $500 and 3 weeks later, it was fixed.

Other was on an IH 504 diesel. Manual shut-off broke. Bought a universal choke cable, cut it to length, and put it on. 6 bucks and 15 minutes later, it was fixed.

Not a big fan of electronics on tractors. Or cars, for that matter.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why are you typing in all capitals?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What could possibly be the difference..just cause someone decided it is hollering?? And just because someone decided that, are you one of the sheep that has to follow along. Geez, B&D..lol!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: OLD VERSES NEW Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dewy wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:44:30 10/14/13) DID THE TRACTOR COMPANYS DO THE SAME AS THE CAR INDUSTRY , THEY USED TO,BUILD THEM WHERE THE COMMON SENSE OWNER COULD WORK ON THEM IF THEY WANTED OR HAD TO. YOU KNOW POOR PEOPLE.AND BUILT TO LAST. THEN THEY STOPPED THAT MENTALLITY. IF SO WHAT WERE THE YEARS. WHEN THEY STARTED ALL THE GADGETS CUMPUTERS.


Dewy,

1. All caps when on a forum is considered yelling and rude. So turn off the caps lock.

2. Most of the electronics are because of emission mandates from the EPA, they are here to stay.

3. Built to last? The good old day cars from the 40's 50's and 60's went somewhere between 80K-100K miles for head work, and or rebuild. Todays engines are running without anything major, for 200,000 plus miles. Yea the good old days with 12k mile tune ups and so on. Todays cars run on less gas and less maintenance making them cheaper to operate.

4. If a guy has the diagnostics stuff he can repair a modern car. For under 150 a guy can buy a hardware/software kit that will allow him to attach his computer to his car to trouble shoot it. Works best with a laptop. And systems requirements are pretty low. Google it.

Rick
 
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