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Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Found a nice small 4X32 scope today for a good price but says it is made for a 22 rifle. So will it handle the recoil of an M1 carbine??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It will probably handle the recoil,the parralax is usually at about 75 feet for .22 scopes,which means it is in focus at that yardage,if you don't want to shoot at longer distance it will work fine,just a little blurry if you want to shoot farther.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Reason I want to scope the M1 carbine is that it is a light rifle and my wife does not have any problem holding it up for deer hunting and most shoots in my area are under 100 yards
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 3-9x on my M1 carbine. Nice old gun. Around here it's alot of woods and brush, so you don;t want to be shooting long. Besides it fits really nice in my profile as I go through the brush and swamps without being caught on twigs. I hit 6" groups at 150 yards with it. I got the 3-9x so that I could use it to see distance then I bring it back to about 4-5 to shoot.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can't comment on the recoil question. Have fun trying! The M1 is a great rifle with an interesting history. However, focus distance and parallax distance are two different things and are independant of each other. The scope should be focused for the eye while looking at the sky untill the reticle is clear. There will be some minimum distance inside of which the image will be out of focus but beyond that range the image will be clear. But the reticle can only APPEAR to be at one set distance and in .22 scopes it is 75 feet. If the target is 75 feet away, and the rifle is motionless, moving your eye aroud the objective lens will not make the reticle appear to move on the target. The reticle is "on" the target. This is zero parallax. If the target is closer or further away, when your eye moves, the reticle appears to move on the target. The greater the distance is from 75 feet the greater the apparent movement. It's a matter of optical leverage. The reticle is the fulcum, your eye is one end of the beam and the target is the other. More expensive scopes have a knob or ring to allow parallax adjustment for any range but to be useful the range must be known. With a non-adjustable scope, if the shooter is careful and keeps his eye centered in the lens, there will be no parallex error. Truth be told, it's not a big deal inside 300 yds for hunting accuracy. Beyond that it pays to have an adjustable scope or to be very careful with your eye position. For competative shooting it can't be ignored.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've got a 4x32 on my model 94 22M.Got it zeroed for 35 yards.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If the scope is 1 inch tube it may hold up. If it is a 7/8 inch tube it will be a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i like the peep sights on them rascals, a simmons 8 point is a decent bottom dollar scope, bsa makes a few good ones too-recoil no problem for them--about 50 bucks though. if you still want the 22 scope make sure it is a 1 inch tube as mentioned.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It is the standard 1 inch type and is a BSA by the way. Just made for a 22 rifle so the rings are small for the 22 rail but I have rings laying around so that is no problem. My wife's eye sight is bad enough that she need the scope
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't think it will stand the shocks very long, especially if it is an older scope.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This brand new never been on a gun BSA scope
 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I tried deer hunting with an M1 carbine years ago when I fell and threw my 270 down a mountain. Broke the stock, smashed the scope. I was hunting Coes whitetail. Average weight is about 75,80 pounds. Stopped to rest and had one walk up to me at about 30 yards. I hit it three times in the vitals area. Not a drop of blood. Last time I saw it, it was about three canyons away doing about 90 mph. Your deer are much larger. She would be better off with a 243 or a 6MM.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The 30 Carbine is a specialist deer rifle IMO. If she takes head shots, putting them right between the lookers under 50 yards, she'll be fine. Otherwise, on heart and lung shots, you're going to be doing a lot of trailing. A nice 357 Mag lever gun or something like a 250 Savage or 243 would be a better, more consistent round to use. Half the problem with the 30 Carbine is the bullets used. I use a 32/20 rifle for a lot of stuff, but use a flat point lead alloy bullet. Again, it's a specialist, short range proposition.

As far as the scope, you can get better made, brighter 1" scopes with better fields of view and more robust internals for $40-50.00 brand new. I'd go that route before trying a 3/4" or 7/8" 22 scope.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For woods hunting at 100 yrds or less, the M1 cartridge is adequate - as long as you don't use military ammo. You must reload with hunting bullets. Shoot accurately with the rifle you have - with the right bullet.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Rifle scope question one mead for 22 on a M1 carbine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why would you put a scope on a rifle that shoots a 30 cal pistol round? If you are at a range you need a scope it's probably too far away for that rifle.

A 4X32 scope made specifically for a 22 rifle will not last long on a rifle with a heavier recoil.
 
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