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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Ford industrial engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From what I've read, this engine should almost be a
bolt-in for a Major/SM, right? It's a 254 Ford
Dorset 2722E.
Not mine, don't know seller...but it's close enough
to be tempting...if it were cheaper.
NOT a 268

 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford industrial engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi
I have put these and the 6 cylinder versions in Majors.
Even being a 4 cyl they are ignorant to fit. the oil pan is completely wrong being made of aluminum, , there is no place for the wishbone on the front axle, so that has to be converted some how, either under or out front. I did mine out front.
The top of the block lines up to the tractor but the bottom from oil pan down is a different shape, the bolts don't line up and it needs major re working to make it work and strong.

You can"t fit the tractor pan as the blocks are totally different so that's just a pain. when I did mine i had to cut and tig weld the oil pan. altering the front so the steering track bar fitted in the standard place, without moving the axle forward and lengthening the hood, drag arm and frame.

The front motor mounts need work/ fabricating, and chances are the cooling hose on the bottom of the rads the wrong side. That needs a cross over tube making or the rad altering all the ones i've been involved with needed work.
To be honest when mine was running it had loads of power and i spent a lot of time doing it as right as i could.
At the end of the day it looked and worked good.
But it destroys the value of the tractor. There was one advertised in Ontario $1500 last year, don't know if it sold or not.
It kinda makes me want to smack the guys up the side of the head, that put these motors on flea bay, saying direct bolt in replacement for majors.
It never has been and never will be, trust me been there done this more than once!.
If you decide to do it be prepared for a lot of work not just 2 afternoons,
Regards Robert
 


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford industrial engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. I've seen one Major with a 6-cyl. Dorset, but never one with a 254. From what I'd heard, the 4-cyl. was an "easy fit". Guess not! Wasn't planning on tackling a project like that, but have wondered what it would take.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford industrial engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi
Not a problem, don't want to see a guy get into something he wasn't expecting.
If a guy wants to half @$$ it you could do it with a pile of odd steel, a welder and cutting torch in a few afternoons and not worry about the oil pan. There are plenty of those conversions about already.
Im guessing your like me and if your gonna do it, It will be right.

The 6 is a lot more work trying to get the 12" you add to the hood and stuff right.
The last hood for one I have part built, (150hp turbo) wasn't right and I'm gonna do another. when i ever get time to finish it off.
That will be 4 hoods used before i'm done and it looks like a factory hood .
I kinda collect Major parts when I see them got 1 spare 6 turbo and one of those burnt 4's as spares here now, so pretty much everything I want is here, apart from time L.O.L.
Regards Robert
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford industrial engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got an email from the guy selling the engine... I
could get it for $400 cash. It's tempting to get it
for that price, and put it in my swather. I think I
could get almost that much for the 200 I6 Ford gas
that's in it now... but I really don't need another
project...
 
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