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IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model????"

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model????" Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The pictures are of my Grandpa probably in the 1950s. The tractor I believe to be his Farmall 400 which he had for many years. What is the IHC McCormick Deering combine/harvester model and year???





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Either a 64 or a 76, can't see enough of it to tell for sure. It has been a lot of year's since i've had one.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I found a 76 in the 150 Years of International book but not a 64. I don't see a PTO shaft in the pictures. Could the part he is leaning on be an engine that ran the combine???

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jeff, Yes your machine in picture has auxiliary engine which makes me guess it is a 64. I had a PTO Model 76. Like stated hard to tell which yours is as main difference was 76 had wider cylinder and separating area but the grain tank and all was similar. Also not many 76's were built with aux. engine however it was an option on 76.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


What kind of engines were used and where can I find more information on the engines and combines? I haven't found much on the web so far.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a early model 64 machine built about 1952 (+/-). It has the tall elevators. The 1954 models had the newer lower elevators like the model 76. It could have had a cub or a super A engine, both were available.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Thank you for the information. It is very helpful. Is production and spec data available on the web? I haven't been able to find much other than some pictures of the machines. Also, were the Cub and Super A engines IHC engines and are there still some engines around? I have other IHC hit n miss engines.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Great pictures!!

My Grandpa had a 62, 64 & a 76 throughout his farming career, though I only remember the 76. However, it was my Great Uncle (IH dealer) who told me of the finer points in the progression of those pull-type combines. From what I see, it's a 64. The 62 was similar in design, but had a rounded back like the 42, 52, 140, etc. The 64 had the hood over the separator flattened & shortened a bit. The 76 was real close to the 64, but the dead give-away was the "New" fold out auger on the side of the grain tank as opposed to the front.

As for dates, the 62 was made from '41 to '51, the 64 was from '51 to '54 & the 76 was '55 to '58.

The power unit in your pic is the Continental L-head engine, can't remember the c.i.d.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mike, what year was the 42 made? That is what Dad had and pulled with the PTO on a 44 2N Ford.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The information you are providing is a big help. So it has a 4 cylinder, Continental L-head (Flathead) engine. Could it be F124, F140, or F160? Is the IHC McCormick Deering production and spec data available on the web? Also, are these old engines still around for collectors?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 42 was made '40 to '44. Sounds like a nice setup. Was the 2N geared low enough for a combine or was there a step-down in the transmission?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Probably before the step up was installed and I have never seen a step down. The step up gave a speed equal to 4th in your Farmal H, a blank spot that was fixed with the 8N. And the step up - step down also changed the PTO speed in the same ratio as the ground speed as those units replaced the input shaft in the front of the transmission from the clutch. I was about 3 when Dad got it, that would have been in 1946, the same year he bought a GI corn picker he also pulled with the Ford and might have been about 7 when he sold it. Person that bought it picked it up with a Allis B. At that time Dad bought a used Allis 60 combine with the engine. 5' cut instead of 3 1/2' cut. I do not know if it had the rasp bar or spike tooth cylinder but it did have the grain tank.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jeff does your IHC book show a 1938 or 1939 combine
it was pto driven with sacking platform, not
painted red, but unpainted also augar on platforn
would like the model numbers and pictures if
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not sure yet which Continental was used. Can't find my 64 manual at the moment, just the one for the engine & that covers several models. There are still Continental engines being made. They're sold through Wisconsin Motors. NOT to be confused with Continental Motors who still makes a good airplane engine.

There's a link below to a copy of IH's production list that's up to date through '78. The combine is listed under the first page of "Thresher-Harvester". Looks like they made 32,819 of them. If you'd like to check out more of the IH collection on the WHS site, look toward the upper-left-corner-area of the page & click on "International Harvester Collection". Be careful, it's easy to lose track of time on a site like that. Not that I'd know....

As for surviving engines, depending on what model, there should still be plenty around. Original parts, too.

Specs I can copy out of my manual if you'd like.

Mike
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: IHC McCormick Deering Combine/Harvester Model???? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Mike

If you could copy the specs out of your manual that would be great. There are manuals on ebay for the No 64 harvester and also the engine but I haven't been able to figure out which model the engine is. On the front of the manual for the engine is says 3X4" but I don't know what that means.

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