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Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse


 
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Nicole S
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:12 pm    Post subject: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a Ford 5000 diesel and it is progressively getting slower to engage in reverse, it can take over a minute to go. Its worse when cold. I was told to use regular ATF fluid and I have added some over last year due to leak, not sure if this could be causing issue since now I'm reading shop manual and it calls for M2C41-A transmission and hydraulic oil ( what ever that is) or if it needs some kind of adjustment or fluid/filter change. Most forward gears seem fine but it does seem to slip some under some load conditions. Any ideas or recommendations??
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It is not uncommon for late model S-O-S transmissions to delay upon reverse engagement but a full minute is excessive.

You should use only CNH 134D oil or quality equivalent. Do not use ATF.

When did you last change the filter?

When did you last adjust the bands?

Late model S-O-S transmissions are just about bullet proof PROVIDED routine maintenance.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Try a band adjustment, as well as changing oil and filters. Band 3 is likely your culprit. But as Dean says, ATF is a no no! 134 D or equivalent. It supersedes M2C41.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have not serviced the fluid yet, I purchased the tractor about 2 years ago from the original owner and followed his advice to use ATF. Once I started having issues I purchased a service manual and read about the fluid and also adjusting the bands. I will start with the fluid and go from there. I was wanting so expert advice so thank you! It's a great tractor so I was hoping I could fix it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you, I will track some of that fluid down. I will attempt
the band adjustment too. I'm mechanically inclined and I have
a shop manual, just a little intimidated of transmission work.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I also have a 1967 5000D SOS and it has had the same problem since the day I bought it. Have you tried 9th and 10th gear also? I'd be willing to bet you that they are also slow to engage. It's Clutch 1 that is common to R1, R2, 9, 10.
And you and I are not the only ones who have posted about this exact same problem in the 5000 SOS.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Reading the manual can instill some apprehension , but it's pretty straight forward taken one step at a time. I would suggest draining all fluid from the trans. Clean the pickup screen and install a new filter and fresh UTF fluid that meets ford specs. Warm tractor up to operating temp and adjust bands following manual precisely. As Larry says, it sounds like band three, but adjust them all in the correct sequence. You should then be good to go.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Select-O-Speed takes long time to engage in reverse Reply to specific post Reply with quote

9 & 10 work great actually. 3 is a little weak.
 
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