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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

any recommendations on an older square baler looking to replace the old super 66 only do about 2500-3000 small squares a year somewhere in the $3000 range thx for your input
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We have run a New Holland 273 for years, been a great baler and makes nice bales. But I would recommend one with the super sweep head and a long tounge.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 275 new Holland bought it for 800 had it ten years been a good baler
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

New Holland or John Deere. I am sure other brands made a few good balers, but here you would struggle to get parts, no one would be able to help you, and resale would be terrible. In New Holland 271, 276, 311, 315, 316 were the best models. The 269,273,275 were good reliable balers, but their feeder was not as good, and their capacity is quite a bit less. John Deere 336 and 337 balers are popular as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why not repair-recondition the baler you have. The only baler I would ever consider to replace is a NH 65 due only to small bale size.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree on any of the older NH or JD bales.Any will do a good job as long as they are cared for and in good shape.When you find a suitable candidate,repost for more info/advise.Once you move up from that old 66,you'll think you died and went to heaven!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

leroy i have done that for a few years but some parts i cant find like the hay dog spring under the bale chamber 3 are alike one is quite a bit different and is nla plus it is pretty low capacity and it takes forever on first cutting/heavy windrows
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have 2 working 276's, they are great, If you have heavy windrows I would recommend a 276, if you have lighter ones, a good 273 would be fine, just slower.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks for the great info guys really helps hope everybody is staying warm!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Where are you at? If you get rid of the 66 I might be able to use some parts.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a 65 for alot of years.. Women loved the bales as they were smaller.. I gave it to a buddy that only bales couple hundred. and bought a 273 at auction.. 273 has been a fantastic baler. It has the super pickup in front compared to the 65 that had the "cheaper" pickup..
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My vote would be for a New Holland 273 as it is probably the baler made in the highest numbers of any produced by any manufacturer. There are several 273's in my neighborhood here in Missouri that folks own doing a similar number of bales as you each year. I upgraded this past year from a 1969 NH 273 to a NH 311 which is even more bullet proof and somewhat newer (1982) which is a follow-on from the earlier series from which the NH 273 evolved. The NH 311 I found was shed kept and like a new baler in that it was hardly used with only 11,000 bales per the seller baling alfalfa hay for his calves. The NH 311 model wasn't produced in near the quantity as the NH 273 as it was introduced at the time there was a move toward the round balers I believe. In this part of the country New Holland hay equipment is the standard and I would venture that 80-90% of hay equipment is New Holland. Another plus in this area is the NH dealership as he is very supportive of the equipment in the field with service, parts, etc. during the hay season with 24/7 service if necessary.
Another important point to consider is the reputation of the dealership that will be supporting your equipment for parts and service. As mentioned above my New Holland dealer maintains a very high level of all wear parts and those subject to breakage and can supply almost anything overnight if truly needed. Hope this helps, Hal.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If I recall correctly the NH 276 was their first high capacity square baler and is known for pumping them out. The follow-on high capacity NH baler is the 320 which was a disaster per a New Holland tech rep I talked too. He stated that the 320 was of a design that turned a later lightened basic frame then the 276 into their high production square baler. The high stroke count on the light weight frame just destroyed them. I've seen a couple 320's at farm auctions and both appeared to be a training ground for beginning farmer welding classes from the amount of welds to the frame and bale chamber. A neighbor had one when the 320's first came out and it worked fine for the first 2 or 3 years before it started to self destruct. I don't know where the NH 316 fits into the series but I saw one for sale and to me with my NH 273 and later NH 311 it looked like a battleship compared to a destroyer escort but it might be a very durable baler also but don't know anyone with a 316 or even one in the neighborhood so can't comment on them, Hal.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Someone here will correct me on this, but I have heard that on either the 315 or 316 there has been a high number of them loosing their tongue... Breaking off, I do not remember which model for sure though.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: good ole' baler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hesston 4600 or case IH inline baler the pickup is almost as wide as the one on my 855 new Holland round baler and you don't have to bale around and around or in lands either
 
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