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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

can i use 8volt bat. 0n my 8n.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Might wanna to make sure your charging system will keep the battery up to par. If 6 volt genny, I doubt it., unless you can make the genny a 3 pole that puts out 7.8 volts.

John,PA PS: The starter will not care even if the battery is 12 volts.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

why?

what happens after the first couple starts and your 8v battery discharges.. your tractor genny is made to charge a 6v battery.. not 8v. thus you will have a discharged 8v battery.

awfully hard to find an 8v battery charger on a store shelf too.

8v+ on your points and lamp bulbs will wear them faster even if you did dink with the vreg to get it to charge at 9.2-9.6v

if you are asking about 8v.. sounds like you have starting issues. better to FIX your problem then add another!!!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For a while, but then it won't have enough charge and you won't be able to charge it. If you old low compression tractor won't start on 6 volts, bit the bullet and convert it to 12 volts.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

8 volt battery is a bad aid fix for other problems. Plus when was the last time you saw a battery charger that had 8 volt option to it. And as the other guys have said your 6 volt system will not keep it charged up fully. Fix the starting problem or switch to 12 volts and be done with it
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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If you decide to use an 8 volt battery I would recommend not using a voltage regulator. A 6 volt regulator is not compatible with an 8 volt battery. Run her straight off a cut out or diode. That should help it get a higher charge. Have you priced an 8 volt lately? They are not cheap. If you decide to stay with 6 volts, buy the biggest one that will fit. Twelve volt conversion is probably the most expensive change over. HTH
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Expensive change over?? An alternator is around $45 give or take $10 or so then the wires another $10 or so and a battery and the know how to wire it up. Both a 6 volt and 12 volt battery about the same cost and if you have to repair a generator that can cost a heck of a lot more then doing the switch over
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Old,
You are correct! Was also thinking of changing over the ignition, lights and such.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ignition ya I forgot the $5-10 ballast resister or a $20 coil. Lights what the heck are those?? LOL Only tractor I have with lights I put on my self so they where 12 volts to start with. In my area if you can get a generator rebuilt it will cost you 3 time the cost of a switch over
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks all! 12v sounds the way to go .
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: battery Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As other already said, you would unwise to go with 8V. If you are having issues now, then something else is wrong. If you have the original 6V positive ground system, and it is wired correctly and maintained correctly, then it should be fine if you wish to keep it al l original and/or is only doing light duty work (mowing grass, plowing snow)but if you are in a colder climate area and use it everyday as a work tractor, then 12V is the way to go providing the 12v conversion is done correctly. There's nothing wrong with the original 6V system as I have kept my early 8N as such and use it for plowing snow, mowing grass, plowing fields, discing, cultivating, planting, etc. with no issues whatsoever. Even on sub-zero days she starts fine but I maintain the setup as it should be -6V mantra -"clean, bright, and tight".

Tim 'PloughNman' Daley(MI)
 
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