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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 4:38 am    Post subject: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

what works the best for floor protection on new treated floor, I will be having my kids sitting on it during shows and pulls as well.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Used motor oil is the only thing that REALLY works. Lay a tarp down if you want to set on it.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I did my new trailer after the first year. I did mine with used motor oil on a hot sunny 90+ degree days and gave it two coats that summer. If floor is dry and its sunny and hot it doesn't take long for it to soak in. I do tarp my trailer in the winter.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Please ignore the illegal and in EPA violation comments fromt he eco-terrorists intent on polluting our ground water, and don't pant your trailers wood with a waste used oil.

there are plenty of other options.

Asphalt based fence paint cures environmentally inert and is DARN GOOD at protecting wood.

I have wood treated thusly on my flatbed that has been there 14ys now with no signs it's going anywhere soon.

And it doesn't leach out and poison the water I drink either!
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You asphalt fence post paint is really not much better than used motor oil. Number one it is made from an industrial waste called coaltar. If you go to the asphalt fence paint and read the Tech Data Sheet It says "Harmful if you breath vapors and if it comes in contact with eyes or skin". It also contains chemicals known to cause cancer and birth defects. So I would say its no better than used motor oil.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you wanna sit on it, I'd probebly varnish it, go over it a few times and it'd probebly be pretty good. Or buy sealer like you'd put on a deck to protect it.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

fortunately you are incorrect.. nor did you read my post.

The co i work for deals with both used oil and asphalt on a dialy basis.. I have the MSDS sheets in front of me..

When cured it is virtually inert, and NON reactive with respect to leaching and offgassing volatiles.

the product is classified as :stable

at ambient temperatures the product does not decompose.

HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Will not occur

STakes a STRONG oxidizer to make it reactive.

A4 Not Classifiable as a Human Carcinogen

Bioaccumulation of components is not expected

This material, if discarded as produced, is not a RCRA “listed” hazardous waste

Not regulated by the U.S. Dept of Transportation as a hazardous material

EPA SARA 311/312 Title III Hazard Categories:
Chronic Health Hazard: NO
Fire Hazard: NO
Pressure Hazard: NO
Reactive Hazard: NO

NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION rates it as a health 1, fire, reactivity 0

Flash Point:
N/A
Flammable Limits In Air % By Volume:
Lower: N/A
Upper: N/A

Material:
Stable
Conditions To Avoid:
N/A
Hazardous Decomposition Products:
N/A

SECTION VIII - SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS AND SPILL/LEAK PROCEDURES
Spill or Released:
Allow to cool and remove.

As i said. it's pretty safe when it's not 400 degrees...

Used oil MSDS:

HEALTH HAZARDS
May be harmful if absorbed through skin.
May be harmful or fatal if swallowed.
May irritate eyes, and skin.
Suspect cancer hazard. Contains material which can cause cancer. Risk of cancer depends
on duration and level of exposure.
Contains material which can cause birth defects.
Contains material which can cause central nervous system damage

ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS
Product may be toxic to fish, plants, wildlife, and/or domestic animals.

POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS
Effects may vary depending on material composition. Typical effects may
include:
EYES: May cause irritation.
SKIN: May cause irritation. Product may be absorbed through the skin and cause
harm,dizziness, loss of coordination, numbness, and other central
nervous system effects. Massive acute overexposure may cause rapid central
nervous system depression, sudden collapse, coma, and/or death.
INGESTION May be harmful or fatal if swallowed
MEDICAL CONDITIONS Individuals with pre-existing cardiovascular, liver, kidney,
AGGRAVATED BY central nervous
EXPOSURE: system, eye, and/or skin disorders may have increased
susceptibility to the effects of exposure.

CHRONIC: Prolonged or repeated eye contact may cause
inflammation of the membrane lining the eyelids and covering the eyeball
(conjunctivitis). Prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause drying,
cracking, redness, itching, and/or swelling (dermatitis).
CANCER This product contains mineral oils, untreated or mildly treated, which can
INFORMATION: cause cancer. This product may contain hydrocarbon and chlorinated
solvents; metals, and polynuclear aromatics which can cause cancer. Risk
of cancer depends on duration and level of exposure. For more
information, see SECTION 11: CARCINOGENICITY.
POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS
Product may be toxic to fish, plants, wildlife, and/or domestic animals.

SECTION 5: FIRE FIGHTING MEASURES
FLASH POINT: >200°F (93°C) (minimum) Pensky-Martens Closed Cup
HAZARDOUS COMBUSTION Decomposition and combustion materials may be toxic.
PRODUCTS: Burning may produce phosgene gas, nitrogen oxides, carbon
monoxide, and unidentified organic compounds.
SECTION 6: ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
Remove all ignition sources. Do not touch or walk through spilled product. Stop leak if you can
do it without risk. Wear protective equipment and provide engineering controls as specified in
SECTION 8: EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION. Isolate hazard area.
Keep unnecessary and unprotected personnel from entering. Ventilate area and avoid
breathing vapor or mist. A vapor suppressing foam may be used to reduce vapors. Contain
spill away from surface waters and sewers. Contain spill as a liquid for possible recovery, or
sorb with compatible sorbent material and shovel with a clean, sparkproof tool into a sealable
container for disposal.
SECTION 11: TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
SENSITIZATION: Based on best current information, there may be known human
sensitization associated with this product.
MUTAGENICITY: Based on best current information, there may be mutagenicity
associated with this product.
REPRODUCTIVE Based on best current information, there may be reproductive
TOXICITY: toxicity associated with this product.
TERATOGENICITY: Based on best current information, there may be teratogenicity
associated with this product.
TOXICOLOGICALLY
SYNERGISTIC Based on best current information, there may be toxicologically
PRODUCT(S): synergistic products associated with this product.

SARA SECTIONS This product poses the following physical and health hazards as
311 AND 312: defined in 40 CFR Part 370 and is subject to the requirements of
sections 311 and 312 of Title III of the Superfund Amendments and
Reauthorization Act of 1986 (SARA):
Immediate (Acute) Health Hazard
Delayed (Chronic) Health Hazard
SARA SECTION This product may contain "toxic" chemicals subject to the requirements
313: of section 313 of Title III of the Superfund Amendments and
Reauthorization Act of 1986 (SARA) and 40 CFR Part 372.
CERCLA: This product may contain “hazardous substances” listed pursuant to
Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability
Act of 1980 (CERCLA) in 40 CFR Part 302, Table 302.4.




now which one of those, after reading all that do you want parked next to your well.

the one that 'once cool' it pretty much inert.. or the one that does all that other bad stuff.

I did my engineering thesis on water systems designs... Asphalt isn't a problem.. used oil is..
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anyone ever try boiled linseed oil? Just thinking
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When you are talking of oil are you referring to used engine oil only or all oils? I have always used hyd. oil that I have changed in tractors.

Bob
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Used motor oil, I roll it on in the middle of summer and not a drop gets on the ground. Use a 6" wide paint roller directly out of a 5 gallon bucket. Soaks in very well when the wood is nice and dry, I put at least two "coats" on. I have some floors going on 15 years old. More oil leaks out of running cars going down the road than from trailer floors. Better even than the "treated" lumber sold these days.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

soundguy wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:23:42 05/11/14) Please ignore the illegal and in EPA violation comments fromt he eco-terrorists intent on polluting our ground water, and don't pant your trailers wood with a waste used oil.

there are plenty of other options.

Asphalt based fence paint cures environmentally inert and is DARN GOOD at protecting wood.

I have wood treated thusly on my flatbed that has been there 14ys now with no signs it's going anywhere soon.

And it doesn't leach out and poison the water I drink either!


The used motor oil SOAKS INTO the wood, and stays there. My trailer is parked on what is basically part of my back lawn, so there IS grass growing under the trailer. I treat the deck at least once per year, and the grass is STILL HEALTHY AND GROWING. If it was bad for the environment or the ground water, that grass would be dead.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

rustyfarmall that is what I do with my trailer and hay racks. I have used hydraulic oil several times. I have one hay rack that I am going to replace the floor and it is over 40 years old and oiled and sets outside and has always been treat with used oil.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

it's called leaching.

It's the same reason they don't use CCA treated wood on playgrounds.

plenty of grass there.. AND arsenic.

go figure huh!
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i'm specifically addressing waste engine oil.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: want to protect new floor on trailer Reply to specific post Reply with quote

soundguy wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:02:50 05/16/14) i'm specifically addressing waste engine oil.


So am I. Figure it is much safer to apply that oil to a wooden trailer deck than it is to just dump it out on the road, which is my only other option for getting rid of it.
 
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