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Patrick Potter
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am not very familiar with Allis Chalmers tractors but there"s always a first, my stepdad and I bought one today it was hard to get to part of it (I broke both bones in my leg just above the ankle) but I was able to get the number of the back axle #6111553 I was unable to get to it and clean it off so I"m not 100% sure of the number, as always, thanks for yawls help.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What model tractor? That number sounds too high to be a serial number for any Allis Chalmers...
A picture would help also.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea I sort of figured that, after I posted this I started doing some researching and I haven't found any serial numbers that matched what I have, I'm not certain on the first two numbers but I'm pretty sure on the rest I couldn't find anything that indicated a model number it's pretty weathered, some things I do remember is that the shift lever comes up and curls to the steering wheel and has what appears to be a release trigger at the shifter knob attached to a rod that runs along the shifter and goes into the transmission beside the shifter, the battery box is mounted on the side of the frame instead of the top like most of the row crop tractors that I have found, the seat and steering wheel are off to the right and the has a spring and a shock but the shock is mounted in front of the spring instead of inside of the spring, it's a 6 volt system, I'm pretty sure it's a 40's model.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like a WD/WD45. Serial No is to left of seat, on the rear diff, vertical flat surface, hand stamped. Sounds like you are reading a casting #, not serial #...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You are describing a WC. The serial number is on the center of the differential housing. The round part.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I feel pretty certain it's a WD myself after dresearching some more after my last reply and yes the number is hand stamped, I did get the number off the back of the differential to the left of the seat, about how much does a WD weight, I expect it weights in the neighbor hood of 5000#. It took me a while to figure the WD out because I felt that the D pertained to deisle because every time I'd look at one with D following it was a deisle.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Could that "6" be an "s"? If so, a wartime WC? S stands for "steel". I"m not near books, but can verify the 11xxxx being early 40s, with sn list in my billfold. Differential is different construction, finals BOLTED to diff. google wartime WC.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would bet that it is a wc
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JMS, yes that could be a S I was thinking possibly a S but it kind of looked like the bottom part of the first number came on around and met so I took it as a 6, there was some stuff around the tractor and with my busted leg I couldn't get to it good enough to clean it with out taking a chance of falling.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The trigger lock would indicate either a WC, WF, or RC. Probably a WC.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I apologize if I sound a little ignorant, but I know little to nothing about Allis Chalmers, but the trigger lock I assume is to lock it in gear because I didn"t see anything to indicate it had more than 4 forward gears, I wasn"t olooking for anything either so it could"ve been right in front of me and not see it. This tractor is going to go to my step brother but I"m going to get it to my house first and get it running then I"ll likely deliver it to him because he doesn"t have anything that"ll pull it the distance he lives. I apologize I get going and I don"t stop. Thank for everyone"s feed back as I get everyone"s feedback it gives for ways to research.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The "trigger lock" is a release to let the shift lever move further to the right so it can go into reverse (right and down). It"s easier to find third and fourth if the lever doesn"t automatically go further to the right.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

111553 would be a WC, 1941. Can"t be a WF cuz last WF was 8353 in 1951. RC stopped in 1941 at sn 5504. Records show wartime WC at about 132,000 sn in 1944. A pic would really help.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Serial number Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It'll be several days but I'll get some pics, from the feed back I'm getting I'm pretty certain it's a 1941 WC, at first I was leaning towards a '51 WD but now '41 WC, if yawl don't mind keep a watch on this and I'll have a few picks, I'm certain on the 111553 but not on the 6 I feel pretty certain it's an S.

Thanks everyone for the posts and updates
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