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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:44 am    Post subject: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

After removing the "Bakers Hat" and dip stick- just one problem....dipstick is dry! LOL Do I dare put oil in it? Hmmmm.......
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Most dip sticks got broken off during the last 70 odd years. If i remember right i think the thing holds about 6 qts. We used 20 wt non detergent motor oil some use hy tran others hydraulic oil. Really it makes no difference.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok since I have hyd oil already I will use....just curious where it all went?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only place it can go on its own is out a gasket or drain plug and on to the ground.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A blown hose on the last thing the hydraulic was used for. Use a rod 9 inches long and fill to 8 inches from the top of the stand pipe. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The dipstick is there..... I assume the bottom seal may be out? when I add oil I guess it will tell me. (where the shaft hooks to coupler). The three outlets all have pipe plugs in them so hasn't been used in years... 30 wt non-detergent? Never have understand why use "non-detergent" as opposed to regular oil? Does it matter? Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-banjoman09 wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:47:58 04/20/17)Never have understand why use "non-detergent" as opposed to regular oil? Does it matter? Thanks.

It matters. Detergent oil foams up a lot worse than non-detergent. Foam causes big problems in hydraulic systems.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The detergent in oil of the tractors vintage was often associated with foaming. Not so much in today;s oil, but Hytran or JD Hyduard equivalent oil is OK. If you will use it with equipment that is also shared with tractors that use Hydraulic Transmission Fluid, use that, they are not picky. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Are you planning on using the hydraulics? If not, just leave the couple off.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Many times the dipstick is missing because it was removed. The hydraulic plumbing for the #30 and #31 loaders required the return lines be attached to the fill pipe. The dipstick HAD to be removed.

Also, the belly pump holds 6 quarts, but over-filling will not hurt anything. You can add oil until it runs out the fill pipe. The worst that will happen is it will make a mess when the excess oil is forced out. Universal tractor hydraulic fluid, available at most any farm store works just fine. Or if you are really into the IH thing, go to your dealer and get some Hy-Trans.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok and thanks.....
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok....great..I think I will add a few qrts and see what happens...as John said- I really don't plan on using the hydraulics- unless at some point I find a "belly mower" to use on thie tractor....might just remove the coupler. Thanks!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All I can say is that I never heard the term Baker's hat . Grew up running a H and worked on IH tractors for over 40 years at a dealer. Learn something every day.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

LOL....me neither...but I like it!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: H - Bakers Hat! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ive always thought that since I was little, but I never used the term on a forum that I recall until Janicholson used it the other day. (Cue the chef from The Muppets!) I still make that little sound he use to make when I add fluid to the belly pump.
 
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