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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

By the looks of the tractor it would seem to be late 50's or early 60's. I have lots of pictures. The dealer couldn't ID it. He gave me locations to find the serial number but I couldn't find it. Any help would be appreciated
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote


If you were to tell what makes it "seem to look fifties or early sixties" That information would probably help. Most likely being a four cyl. though it is probably 58-64. The dealer probably told you to look on the horizontal flat surface just to the rear of the starter which should be on the left. However, many diesel's batteries leaked acid which tended to eat the stamped numbers away.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A photo would be nice.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. Just not sure. It is in rough shape. But the look seems to be that era I had a real helpful parts guy at the local Ford store and I showed him My pictures. He is the one that came up with late 50's or early 60's. He also told me to look on transmission for serial number. Could only see casting numbers.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[i will try to upload a photo. I have lots. But will try one to start [img]http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/photos/6807.jpg[/img]
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Front end makes me think its a 1963/1964 2000/4000 model. This web site will show you various model.. Your tractor is definitely a 53-64 model... wrong rear axles to be a naa in that series.. and the front sheet metal pushes it to the last 3 years of that series.. but again,, someone could have swap out parts.. Others will chime in... the open exhaust pretty much guarantees the engine will be froze up...



http://www.oldfordtractors.com/identify.htm
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Front axle is a hi-crop axle, it may have lost the 38" wheels on the rear to calcium chloride.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Definitely looks like 63-64 2000 or 4000 series sheet metal.

It may just be the angle that the picture was taken at, but it looks like it has the drop down rear axle of a row crop and the front axle and steering of a non-row crop ag chassis model.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

riveroadrat wrote:
(quoted from post at 02:24:04 11/28/17) Front axle is a hi-crop axle, it may have lost the 38" wheels on the rear to calcium chloride.
Do the front knees have a machined area where they go behind the hood doglegs? Also on the ID numbers, I dont know how much metal is left on the ID pad but if you can thoroughly clean that area and paint it with red oxide paint that will help a lot. Its also easier to see during different times of day at different angles. I had some that I couldnt make out anything but after that treatment I got all the numbers. They are under battery box, horizontal pad, left side. Numbers on outside edge are serial numbers and above that are model numbers. I think you can magnaflux them also.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

riveroadrat wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:24:04 11/27/17) Front axle is a hi-crop axle, it may have lost the 38" wheels on the rear to calcium chloride.


I thought that the front spindles looked taller than a normal ag chassis front axle, but I didn't know that the high crop model had a radius rod front axle with double sided steering like the ag chassis models. I've never seen one in person and never paid that much attention to pictures of them that I've seen in the past. I assumed that it was the same front axle and steering setup as the wide front row crops, just with taller spindles.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

63 or 64. Think whats called cane special. Seen one other at tractor show several years ago.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does the fact that it has a spin on oil filter and is a 4 cylinder diesel help narrow things down?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote


They started using spin on oil filters in 59
Diesel engine came out in 58
Hood says it's a 63-64
intake pipe says it's a 63-64
Look on the side of the engine block and trans for casting numbers.
Small clutch pedal indicates it has SOS trans.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Need help with ID of my 4 cyl diesel Ford Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Once again thanks all. We have narrowed down to 63 or 64 2000 or 4000. I shall look again above starter for serial number. I did look there but now that I know it has to be there I will take the power steel brush to it. there is quite a difference in wheel base between the two models so I shall measure that as well. there are clear stamping numbers on engine and transmission. How would these numbers help?
 
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