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Logan in SE Texas
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wow, I didn't expect the alarmist nature of some of the reply's. The leaf blower motor was approx. 3 feet above the gas tank fill hole AND I had a 42" shop fan blowing on us AND this took place in the opening of a 10' roll up door. I work in the petro-chemical industry and am well versed in all aspects of safety. When I hit upon this idea I considered the possible dangers and concluded that what I was doing would be safe. I even discussed the situation with my neighbor (retail/insurance salesman) and he had no objections and he has seen a lot of claims over the years from Darwin Awards candidates. YES, there WAS a possibility for something bad to happen, there ALWAYS IS in almost every task that we do in our shops and around our machines.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello Ken,



NO NO NO, Not all vacuum are created equal. A shop vac has a
vacuum side and a positive loutlet. It could be used as
well as an low pressure air hose,

Guido.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

One big problem with posts now of days is; people read into them what they want to read instead of what they read.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-jimg.allentown wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:27:09 12/01/17) Don't forget to add that your insurance might not cover that.


Insurance never pays for the stuff that goes right.

But, always for the stuff that goes wrong.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry but I'm a woodworker by profession.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ggb, there was also a whistle blower at Morton - Thiokol (the tank manufacture)
that knew the o-rigs were defective. He also was shut down.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was more worried about the blower making a static spark with it maybe being used in a dusty condition before this, since both tanks are plastic and noticing static in the air around here and the dryness.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I use a outboard gas hose with a bulb and open ends to drain
gas from tanks and cans. Works well and will siphon
if the tank or can is high enough.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

JMOR wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:29:11 12/01/17)
CVPost-Janicholson wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:21:41 12/01/17) I disagree with JMOR in principle. If the leaf blower had a 20 ft hose on it, or a blow port on a shop vac with 20 ft of hose, It would be safe. I see the issue being one of using a hose into a container to prevent splashing and potential fire/explosion of the pushed out material. Risky, uncertain practices are not advisable even if it worked once. The Challenger disaster was clearly an example of a problem waiting to happen. Jim
well, Jan, everything is a disaster waiting to happen! Crossing a street for example. Good to know valuable info such as 20 feet is beyond the greatest distance gas vapor can travel and still ignite.


Thanks goodness he didn't mention a radial arm saw being in the shop, near a buzz saw run by a flat belt that he uses to block up wood that he's going to split with a Stickler type splitter. Certain death!!! Laughing
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The president was not there.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

oh man, thats not a question Sad
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Toro zero turns the fuel tank will come off in about six minutes.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The only way there would have been any danger is if the leaf blower spontaneously turned into a leaf sucker, and started throwing sparks at the same time.

Pushing air into the tank was creating a lean condition, and the fuel would not ignite if you held a lit match in the tank.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Stumbled into an easy solution Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Huh, being as how my leaf blower is gas powered I really didn't see what all the fuss was about. Laughing
 
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