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craigco
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:27 am    Post subject: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can you engage a ground driven manure spreader while moving?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you can if you want to bust it all to pieces.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I suppose it is how and what it is loaded with. I mostly spread horse apples with straw and flip the lever down when moving if the drawbar is short enough to reach the lever for the beaters. I always start the beaters first and very seldom are they loaded on my IH spreaders. I have a IH 100 and IH 200. Hauled a lot of pig manure when in high school with Dads JD and it seems the way it was built when full the beaters were loaded. Not sure about that!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You reminded me of when I was young. Dad had a spreader that had been horse drawn, he converted it to rubber tires and eliminated the front axle. It had a heavy channel iron frame. Pulling it with the Fergy 30 with the drawbar on the lift arms made the Fergy very light on the front. Starting out with the spreader engaged often meant doing a "wheelie" (which was FUN!). BTW the levers were too far back to reach from the tractor seat.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a JD N model with a lever reachable from the tractor seat. Goes from 0 inches per rev of the tires to max chain speed. I have it set to 0 till I get to the field where I engage the PTO and then the floor sweeper and never slow down. Makes no difference what the wheels are doing when engaged.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


You can on a New Idea 10s or a McD 200. But that requires you being on the spreader seal with the 2 example I had. They weren't made as tractor drawn spreaders.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wouldn't recommend it unless you are sure? Had a converted horse drawn when I was young and you had to get off to engage so not an issue, but later was working for a neighbor and he told me not to engage while moving or something would break and he knew this from experience. Both were JD models.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Reminds me also of when I was young. Uncle walt and Aunt Louise had a dairy farm. Milked around 2 doz cows. Walt had a 4 wheel JD spreader. He also had a scoop for his A JD. Later he bought a little 9N for some reason. It came with a sickle mower, at least, as im not sure what else. Then he bought a 2 wheel JD spreader. He asked dad one Sat to help him spread manure. He would load one spreader while dad would empty one with the Ford. Well, on the FIRST and ONLY round, with the 4 wheel, we went with him. He had never pulled a spreader before, and so opened the Ford up. We was hittin 60 and the crap was hitting us. We hollored at dad to slow down but with the Ford roaring, he didn't hear. Then, a turd went over us and hit him. He wheeled around thinking we had throwed it at him, and saw the crap flying everywhere, and slowed down.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The ones I worked with50 years ago were engaged by dropping a flat link chain down onto a large sprocket. Probably not a good idea to drop that chain onto the sprocket that's moving. best case, wear out the chain worst case, break the chain.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bret4207 wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:45:25 12/02/17)
You can on a New Idea 10s or a McD 200. But that requires you being on the spreader seal with the 2 example I had. They weren't made as tractor drawn spreaders.



Looking at my post above and some of the follow up replies, I see I failed to realize some people might not have that odd trait called COMMON SENSE!!! Yes, they use open gearing and flat link chain. If you want to engage this type of rig while moving, I assumed anyone would know that you didn't want to do that in 4th gear with the throttle against the stop! If you're rolling slowly along at a speed I'd consider normal for spreading with a ground drive unit, you shouldn't have any issues. IF that sounds risky, then don't do it. Stop, engage the drives and then slowly move off. If the apron chain isn't moving right away, stop and find out why before you break it and have to empty the spreader by hand!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I ask because I get tired of getting on and off the tractor to engage spreader. Have an old on I have to work on and thinking I want to put some sort of linear actuator to engage the spreader. I have no problem stopping just don't want to get on and off so much. This is why I ask questions to learn before I break something.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I gotcha Craig. A hydraulic actuator would work if the stroke was right. Doesn't take a lot of pressure to move the levers. You could still stop to do it, as you mentioned, or try engaging while moving at spreading speed. If it seems too hard on the machine (you might spread a whole lot faster than I do for all I know) then you can stop and engage with out leaving the seat. The ground drive spreaders built for tractors back in the day had long levers you could reach from the seat. That might be an option too.

My current GD spreader is a McD 200. I have to get off the tractor, engage the widespread and then go around to the other side and engage the apron. It IS a pain, but I don't want to alter it because I can put the front axle under it and use the horses. My IHC 130 PTO spreader I also have to get off to set the levers, but bot are up front and originally came with ropes to actuate them. I can't seem to get around to getting the ropes back on it!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Ground driven manure spreader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't spread real fast irrigation corrogations stop speed real quick. I don't mind stopping just tired of getting on and off, especially since they only hold about 2 skid loader buckets. I do get lazy andrun the spreader on the way back to the pile then shut it off before I load it. And the old ih spreader is far from nice so custom additions don't bother me.
 
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