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Loren in WI
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am hoping that someone can help me out. I found and bought my grandpas old as it says on the hood 801 powermaster. The casting number starts as 861 What do I have ? Is his a 801 powermaster or a 861 powermaster?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Loren,

You have an 801 series, model 861 tractor. Should be a five speed tranny with live PTO, a desireable combination.

There should be a serial number below the model number. With that you can get year of manufacture.

Chris
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I could not have said it better than Chris, great little tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


As Chris said, 801 series, 861 model, the 6 stands for 5 spd trans with live pto.

I have a 801, it's a 881D model. The 8 stands for SOS trans with 2 spd pto, the D stands for diesel engine.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 861 is pretty much the holy grail of that era of Ford tractors in my opinion. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CTPhil wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:15:25 12/03/17) The 861 is pretty much the holy grail of that era of Ford tractors in my opinion. Smile


Not in mine! The 871 or 881 was way more tractor! Laughing Cool
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Larry NCKS wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:34:48 12/03/17)
CTPhil wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:15:25 12/03/17) The 861 is pretty much the holy grail of that era of Ford tractors in my opinion. Smile


Not in mine! The 871 or 881 was way more tractor! Laughing Cool

I'm not disagreeing, but can you elaborate of why you think so?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Larry likes the select o speed transmissions.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
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Larry likes the select o speed transmissions.

LOL. I do want to hear his rationalization, especially since I bought a 871 a week ago. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
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Larry likes the select o speed transmissions.


He's not the only one. Had mine for 43 years and it hasn't let me down yet. The SOS is kinda weird, but if you're used to them, they'll treat you well. I added a foot throttle a while back, and that really makes up and downshifts easy. I wouldn't want a SOS if I was on hilly land, though. . .
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:55:59 12/04/17)
Larry likes the select o speed transmissions.


You're dang tootin'! Reasons to want an SOS over a 5 speed

1. Power shift. Superior at baling small square bales in varying windrows . . . among other tasks.

2. Much faster on the road.

3. Slower low speed ratios. Only real roto-tiller capable tractor of the Ford line in that era.

4. More speed selection.

5. Independent PTO

6. I cut my eye teeth on an SOS. Granddad had one of the first 871s in the country. I started driving it when I was 7 and fell in love with the SOS. It was my favorite tractor then and now, bar my 8670 Genesis.

7. No potential to bang shins slippin' off the clutch pedal.

8. Didn't have to raise knee right up under chin to get it on the Inching Pedal.

9. In my experience, it doesn't matter what needs repaired on a tractor that age, the chances of finding parts for an SOS are no more rare nor are they any more expensive than for a 5 speed.

10. Adjustable shifter stops to make it just as good or better at shuttle work than the 5 speed. For those of us that really got used to them or learned them at an early age, we didn't need to set the stops to get the shuttle down pat.

Nuff said for now. I'll likely think of more.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Glad to hear the positives! I got mine 8 days ago, I took a gamble on one that had an almost non functioning SOS. I got it home and just let it sit there running, it had been sitting for some 10 years, and after a while it started working! After 15 minutes of driving it around every gear worked. Then when I tried it yesterday it was back to not working, but again, started working after getting limbered up. I guess I'll start by changing the trans oil. Here it is:


 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Nice looking tractor, power steering, hydraulic remote, good looking tin.
Looks to be in about the same condition as mine, original paint with patina.

As other's told me when I first got mine, DON'T PAINT IT, very few original paint tractors still around in good condition, had a lot of folk looking and complimenting about mine when I took it to a show, they all said to leave it original.

Mine had been setting in a barn for over twenty years, we checked to fluids before ever firing it up to make sure there wasn't any water in them. I've used it about 20 hours pulling wagon loads of corn and raking hay, haven't changed the oil yet but it's on the todo list along with a new pto seal.
I need to adjust the bands, when it's cold it wants to creep off when you first shift back into park
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some how this thread got way out in left field. I have a 801 powermaster 5 speed tractor. Thanks for the 2 replies, that helped a little.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: What do I have? 801? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:46:52 12/05/17)
I need to adjust the bands, when it's cold it wants to creep off when you first shift back into park


Adjusting bands certainly won't hurt. However, it won't take the cold Park lag out of it. It has to drain cold oil out of 2 bands to apply them for Park.

Just hold the brakes for a few seconds when it's cold and Park will be set when you get off them. The colder it is, the longer it will take.
 
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