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Royse
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

makoman, I just had to cut a ROPS like that off my 3000.
If yours mounts like mine did, there are heavy plates under the rear axle.
The bolts went up through that plate and threaded into the heavy bottom of the roll bar.

The smooth, unthreaded part of the bolts rusted into that plate.
They are rusted so badly that even now that I have cut them off
and removed the roll bar, what's left of the unthreaded bolt
will not turn in those plates. I haven't tried the threaded end.
Some anti-seize may have helped a lot when it was installed.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I built a counter weight for the front of the 4000 SU. It was cheap and easy. Once I mounted it and gave it a test run. I took it off and cleaned the metal up and painted it. Will mount again in the spring.

I fixed the fuel leak and an oil leak but still need to do the pto seal.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Royse wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:32:31 12/07/17) makoman, I just had to cut a ROPS like that off my 3000.
If yours mounts like mine did, there are heavy plates under the rear axle.
The bolts went up through that plate and threaded into the heavy bottom of the roll bar.

The smooth, unthreaded part of the bolts rusted into that plate.
They are rusted so badly that even now that I have cut them off
and removed the roll bar, what's left of the unthreaded bolt
will not turn in those plates. I haven't tried the threaded end.
Some anti-seize may have helped a lot when it was installed.


Wow, that must of really been rusted if they would not spin in the bottom plate, thats not even threaded. Mine were in pretty good shape. Why didn't you just leave them on?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

makoman wrote:
Why didn't you just leave them on?

My uncle wants to buy it and it won't fit in his garage with the taller tires and the roll bar.
Our land is pretty flat, so they're not needed as much as in other areas.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Poor old tractor. Tarps are cheap and save you from getting a wet a$$.

Kirk
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

wels wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:42:03 12/07/17)
I built a counter weight for the front of the 4000 SU. It was cheap and easy. Once I mounted it and gave it a test run. I took it off and cleaned the metal up and painted it. Will mount again in the spring.

I fixed the fuel leak and an oil leak but still need to do the pto seal.


What are you hanging off the back that you need so much on the front?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ptfarmer wrote:

My 4500 TLB is slowly going back together, got the bushings on the front axle, and axle support, it can roll on it's own four wheels again.



PT - that 4500 is looking great - they are a solid package - it almost seems a shame to encumber it with a loader and backhoe
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
4000SU's still waiting in line to go in the shop to replace the broken crank.


I've been looking at 4000SU's recently - actually inquired about one, but missed the sale - they seem like a very good package for the 3 cylinder series as long as they are not asked for loader duty -
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I used one of the 960's recently to spread straw on the strawberry patch - picture is from a few seasons ago, much more pleasant conditions this year, about as painless as the job ever can be -



I used the 961 to beat around the hay field pulling a culta-cutter, knocking down saplings and multiflora rose as they try to invade the field - no pictures, I should probably take a couple of the machine, it dates from the 1950's and there's not many of them around -

used the other 960 to mow the fruit plantings - it lives attached to the mower -

it's now winter, no temperatures above freezing forecast for a few days with significant snow forecast for this saturday - tractors are under the shed which I cleaned up last weekend - not 'snug', but protected from weather unless it blows in from the east -
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


4000SU is a really nice package, compact and maneuverable like the 2-3000, but has plenty of hp, ind pto and the good wet disc brakes of a 4000. The larger planetary rear axle makes it feel more stable than the lighter 2-3000, probably because it adds around 200 lbs to the rear axle weight.
It is a little slower due to the gearing, has the same gears with 28" rear tires as the 4000 with 30" tires.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

the one I inquired about had 24" tires I believe - cast centers, no spin-out rims, looks like the 24" combos that I have on the 4500 - here's another one with the same centers/rims

https://centralmich.craigslist.org/grd/d/ford-4000-su-special-utility/6377755078.html

the one I missed was similar, about the same price, had good ag tires, and was quite a bit closer to me -

if I'd had a good year I might have popped for this one even with the turf tires, but there's not much spare change to play tractor this year
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


It's been a little trial and error. Things are a bit hilly around me, so everything from the 6ft tiller to my untility box makes the front light on the hills.

I first tried just 80 lbs concrete behind the bumper. The bigger block is about 180 lbs. I think I might remove the 80 lbs but not sure yet.

It not uncommon to see a set up like this around here. I was looking to do a weight bracket but it was just to pricey.


 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Ag tires will hit you for $12-1500 mounted for that tractor so that's getting the total cost up a little high for a gas model here, but gas models may be worth more up north in your area.

Most any 4000SU seen around here had 14.9-28 rears but they also came with 16.9-24's, I think the 28" rims where more popular. Although it was a odd wheel center back then it's the same type wheels as used on later model 3910, 3930 tractors, so used tires and wheels is a option from a salvage yard.
I think Tractor Data go it wrong again saying 7.50-16 was the front tire size. That's the correct size for my 4000 but all SU's I've seen had lower profile 7.5L15 fronts or the narrower 6.50-16.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

450,
Just another case of Ford's "use what ya got"!
Farm I worked on "back in the day" had 5 4000SU tractors, and 1 or 2 came new with 7.50 x 16 tires. The 4600SU's & 4610SU's often came with the 7.50 x 16's as well.
Sorta like the 5 series tractors, some came with 7.50 x 16's, and some with 7.50 x 18's
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: What's your Ford been doing? Reply to specific post Reply with quote





 
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