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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks Bruce for the information itz pointing me in the right direction. I could not find an adjustable spark tester at any of the local auto parts stores, I could only find the bulb type which I currently have so I ordered one off of amazon and it should be here Saturday.

I got into the distributor and I do not have electronic ingnition but rather the standard points system. I rotated the engine until the distributor was at a point where the points would be open the most and they were less than 0.005" apart with a starett feeler gauge. So I adjusted them to 0.015" and put the distributor back together. The points look to be corroded on the contract surfaces. I will be able to see if the setting the point gap solved the problem tomorrow as I tore the carb apart and it is currently soaking in cleaner. The fuel elbow was pretty dirty and the internals had seen better days.

In regards to the resistor, why are you recommending removing it? Is this due be converted to 12volts? Or you can provide some rational to this?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you read tip # 30?

It has a resistor because it probably has a
6v coil. Just put a 12v coil on it and
remove the resistor.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Since you have a side mount distributor, the point setting should be .025 instead of .015.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

" the point setting should be .025 instead of .015. "

Yep.

Good catch; I missed that.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Bruce (VA) wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:23:12 12/08/17) " the point setting should be .025 instead of .015. "

Yep.

Good catch; I missed that.
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So it's been a good and expensive day in the shop. So while cleaning the carb after an all night soak in cleaner I discovered a 1" crack on the lower portion of the carb. This explains my small gas leak, I thought it due to a bad gasket between the 2 halves. So I bought a new carb at TSC while I look into ways to repair the crack (any advice on this?)

While at TSC I also picked up a 12v coil and a ford shop manual. Once home, I disconnected the resistor and tied the 2 wires together with a wire but. I plan on soldering them later tonight. I got the old coil removed and the new one installed. I also gave the point a quick cleaning with some sand paper and reset the gap to 0.025". In regards to the point what kind of lube should be used on them? I could not find points lube at autozone and I do not have a napa near me to check. Is there a specific brand of point lube anyone recommends?

I installed the carb with a new screen elbow and set up the preliminary adjustments as the manual suggested. I also pulled all of the plugs and cleaned them and heated them with a torch. I also got my new air cleaner installed that I originally thought was my problem.

Guess what? It started right up. It ran a little bit rough but I was able to get the carb adjusted after the engine warmed up. I can get it to idle around 500 rpm but I can not get it to go much lower.

So I think my original issues were due to the resistor, points and potentially the cracked carb. Overall the tractor ran better then it ever has. Thanks again for those who contributed.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Glad to hear you got it running.

There is a good reason you had an " expensive day in the shop. "

You should consider buying new tractor parts from Just-8N's, Dennis Carp-enter or Yesterday's Tractor. Never from T-S-C because of their questionable quality and outrageous price mark up. ( T-S-C front coil, $45; YT cost, $15. T-S-C plug wires, $25; YT, $11). But, sometimes you just need that part right now. N-A-P-A has better quality and much better prices than T-S-C.

I'm guessing you paid $200 for a clone M/S carb. The same carb here is $109.

But yout tractor is running so consider the increased costs as 'tuition ' for a learning experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Air cleaner related starting issues Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="CVPost-Bruce (VA)"](quoted from post at 16:41:40 12/08/17) Glad to hear you got it running.

There is a good reason you had an " expensive day in the shop. "

You should consider buying new tractor parts from Just-8N's, Dennis Carp-enter or Yesterday's Tractor. Never from T-S-C because of their questionable quality and outrageous price mark up. ( T-S-C front coil, $45; YT cost, $15. T-S-C plug wires, $25; YT, $11). But, sometimes you just need that part right now. N-A-P-A has better quality and much better prices than T-S-C.

I'm guessing you paid $200 for a clone M/S carb. The same carb here is $109.


Yep I paid $200 for the carb. I would have loved to order the parts from anywhere else had waiting for them to arrive been an option. I was off work today and had time to work on the tractor so my wallet suffered accordingly.
 
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