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Scott 730
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

24,200 Gross. 1,000 mile haul from MT. to MN. 8-9 MPG. 8.1L gasser.



 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What model tractor ?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

1971 4020D PS.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-SVcummins wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:14:16 12/27/17) I get 13 mpg running 25000 gvw on the freeway at 75 mph my truck has 264000 miles on it my cousin had the 6.0 gas Chevy he got 7 pulling stock trailers. And about 10 to 12 with an empty truck . That weighed 8000 pounds my truck empty gets 17 to 17.5 mpg but I know how and do all the maintenance work myself that?s where the true expense comes in owning a diesel 150$ to 200$ for an oil change with the cheap oil 75 or 100$ to do a fuel filter I can do a oil change for under 100$ using full synthetic oil and the best filter fuel filters cost 15 to 25$ depending on if you ketch the filter sale or not . Then If you take an actual problem to the shop it gets real expensive real quick and for that reason I?d say get a gas unless your equipped and have the knowledge to do the repairs on a diesel yourself


Agreed but the other part of the higher expense is purchasing it to begin with. A good condition 12 valve cummins in a 4wd truck with 250,000 miles is still going for stupid high prices.
I am thinking the original poster is aiming for something new. Its not hard to spend $70,000 on a new diesel truck these days.
Its sad what politics have done to the diesel engine.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Scott 730 wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:15:19 12/27/17) 24,200 Gross. 1,000 mile haul from MT. to MN. 8-9 MPG. 8.1L gasser.




Ah the good ol 8.1L. I've personally never owned one but I wanted one when I searched out for a truck. Ended up with a 6.0.
I think the biggest reason they did away with it was emissions.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Paid 5600$ for my 12 valve bank high books it a
over 9 . I wouldn?t own a new tier 4 diesel without
the emissions taken off it I?ve seen lots and lots of
money spent on emissions on pickup trucks and big
trucks as well

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have had 2 work supplied F350's and my personal 2015 F250 with the 6.2, with the 4.30 rear axle it's a real nice towing set up. The 3.73 is just O.K. but for every day all day the 6.2 with 4.30 is a great towing machine. I drove each one from brand new and never a wrench on either one so far.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't know about that. I've got a 03 chevy crew cab shortbed 4x4 duramax Allison. I know diesels cost more than gas and maintenance/repair is higher but just don't know about the gas hauling. As far as hauling a few cattle at a time no problem. My flatbed gooseneck is 20+5 20k Gvw, I haul hay for the cattle, 15-20 4x5 bales at a time and tractors on occasion. The pulling tractor is a jd 4430 that weighs 10,000 pounds. If gm made a engine bigger than the 6.0 gas I may consider it, but until then on these hills a diesel is needed for the torque. Fuel mileage loaded doesn't matter much and empty I'm doing better than a gas but gas truck and fuel is cheaper so it may be a wash.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This evening at our local truck stop diesel is 86 cents a gallon higher than gas,$2.91 to $2.05
a gallon...A couple of years ago when I bought my 460 powered 1997 F-350 dually with 123,000
miles a comparable diesel was $5000-8000 higher..I only tow about 4000-5000 miles per year in
level country so I'll stay with my 460 at 6-7 MPG loaded..I have no expensive turbo,pump,injectors,
glow plugs,fuel filter,2 batteries,etc to mess with..Some of my friends that used to run diesels are
switching to gas powered trucks...
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a '99 F350 DRW V10, with a 4:30 gear it has preformed flawlessly for 103K miles. It's blown one sparkplug in those 18 years. I get about 8.5mpg here in the mountains of southern West Virginia pulling my 24' gooseneck loaded to its 15K capacity.

I met with my Ford dealer today. Thinking about treating myself to a new truck for my upcoming 50th birthday. I spec'd out another 350 DRW with a 6.2 gas and 4:30 gear and almost 9 grand cheaper than the diesel.

No more often than I tow my tractors, and for chores down on the farm I just can't justify the added cost of the diesel. It didn't work in 1999 and doesn't work in 2018

Just my .02
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Last time I checked removing emissions whether from a gas or diesel engine is against federal law.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-wgm wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:34:12 12/30/17) Last time I checked removing emissions whether from a gas or diesel engine is against federal law.


But if performance is improved, and fuel mileage is increased, how is it bad?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

bought a new 17 ford F350 4x4 reg. cab long bed with 6.2 motor and 4.30 rears it actually pulls load better than 99 model 250 with v10 that it replaced. I farm but don't pull heavy loads everyday. I didn't see that I needed diesel then and especially now with emissions do dads on them. It really does a good job pulling these old tractors around. Mileage on 6.2 motor is better loaded than v10 it is about the same unloaded might get better with a few more miles on it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I used to argue with people until I was blue in the face about how a diesel would pay for itself until about 05+/-. Hard to win that argument any more. It's more of an"I just want one" answer now. I can't afford those new ones anyway. The end of the good ones are just entering my price range.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Gas or Diesel Tractor hauler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Had 2 ford diesels. A 99 w/ 7.3 and an 04 w/ 6.0. Decided about 1 and a half yrs ago I wanted a new truck. I just couldn't justify the diesel this time and went with a 2016 ford with 6.2 and 4.30 rears. It does a damn fine job pulling for a gas rig, however I will say it is no diesel on long steep grades when loaded with anything more than 5000#, but I knew that going in. I have a car I drive to work so truck only gets approx. 5000 miles a year and for that I could not justify the diesel.
 
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