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where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp


 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have installed new points, but can not find where the timing mark is (Probably on flywheel, but where can I see it?) I have several Kohler publications but I find only general discussion of timing mark, nothing specific for my engine. I can get all numbers off the data plates if it will help someone help me!! Thanks in advance for whatever info someone can provide.

Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If I remember correctly there is a window/plug you can pull out of the housing or a notch on the bearing plate to see the mark on the flywheel. I used to care for a few Toro Greensmowers
and turf trucksters, neither were designed to look into the window while running so I rolled the engine over to TDC and then painted a mark on the screen and housing and timed them off of
that. Remember Murphy's 3rd law of combat, "if it's stupid, but works it isn't stupid"
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There's your dinner....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut_7LvgBuJQ
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Should be about a 3/8 hole on the front of blower housing, will have a snap in cover if it hasn't been screwed with, will have probably 2 marks on flywheel, been a while since I looked at one. Rotate flywheel slowly until the marks show up, blast them with carb. cleaner or brake clean and when you figure out which one you want dip a straight screw driver in white paint or white out and mark the line. You can probably find directions on Kohler . com. or google it. I got the books but it's five below zero and reluctant to go get them.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I did find the 3/8 inch hole on blower housing at front of tractor, below level of carburetor. I did not recognize it at first, all I could see in there was the ring gear However, "yoo toob" video by "Isavetractors" showed a flywheel out of the engine and showed timing marks on narrow part of flywheel beside the ring gear, at the edge closest to the engine block. It looks as though it will be hard to see the marks on the flywheel with my timing light when running. I will come back to the timing job in the spring when I have a warm day. For the present, I found top dead center (or pretty close) by rotating engine manually with my hand in the flywheel and feeling compression with a finger of the other hand. I had an ohmeter connected across the newly installed points, and I turned flywheel clockwise, and as I got to the end of the compression the ohmmeter show the points opening. I turned flywheel slightly to get to where points were open to their maximum, then checked gap with feeler. Reading was about .020 inch, so I set them to exactly .020, as per book. So, actually, I only set the points gap to correct value, I did not really set timing, just using the setting that results from the point gap. If the last guy had the timing right, then so have I. The engine started up quickly; no booster, no fluid! I think I am good until a pretty day when I will try the timing light. BTW: I did not try to do anything I saw on another yoo toob video by Teryl. Yuck!! Thanks to those who offered help!

Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No problem to see it if you mark the line with white paint.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On a Kohler K engine, the timing is set by adjusting the point gap. This video for setting the timeing appears to have been done by someone who knows what he is doing. I use the same meter he uses.
Setting the points on a Kohler K engine

Owners manual

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dave:
Thanks for clarifying what is to be done! Actually, your link brings up the YooToob video that was the most help to me. I. E., timing is done via the point gap setting. Thanks to all for your thoughtful responses.

I will wait for a warmer day to mark my flywheel, since on my Deere 212, it looks like I will have to raise the engine to remove flywheel cover, in order to find timing marks and paint them. That is too much work on a cold day in a dirt-floor barn, especially since the tractor will run as it is!

Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: where is timing mark on 1986 Kohler K-301, 12 hp Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Should be no issue in finding the timing mark by shining a bright penlite in the hole and slowly rotating the engine. Once you find it, you can mark it with an artist's brush, or even a broomstraw with a drop of white paint at the tip.
 
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