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Brent Zappe Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:00 am Post subject: Saveing the world. |
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Brent's fun facts here for this day. they claim drive a battery car will save the world. What happens when the battery goes dead? Well you have to charge it up okay I understand. I thought this ideal was back in the 1920 to the 1930. Okay they claim the batteries are better than back in those years. let me ask what is the high level of the battery gases coming out when the battery is in charge. They say the battery is sealed than how do the gasses escape when the battery is charging. Is this really going to save the world? I get it is just like that cad converter which they said would clean this world back in 1976. Want to save the world well lets all go back to the Horse and buggy. E.P.A they just do not understand. |
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rustyfarmall Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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My idea for saving the world is to just stop building more highways. If there is no place for driving a car, people will start walking once again. |
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DeltaRed Tractor Guru
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 14266 Location: Delta,colorado
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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How about the 'hole' they dig all the ore for those batterys out of?You can see it from space.And allthe fossil fuels ysed to transport and process the stuff!Or the 'tree huggers' who don't want to log the forest,or even graze them.Seems they would rather see it burn than use it...Don't get me started..........This thread could turn into a very long one! |
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rbhuntn Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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CVPost-DeltaRed wrote: | (quoted from post at 08:09:34 01/03/1 How about the 'hole' they dig all the ore for those batterys out of?You can see it from space.And allthe fossil fuels ysed to transport and process the stuff!Or the 'tree huggers' who don't want to log the forest,or even graze them.Seems they would rather see it burn than use it...Don't get me started..........This thread could turn into a very long one! |
Could not have said it better |
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rrlund Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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I don't think we're talking lead acid batteries here are we? I really don't know,maybe somebody else does,but can the kind of batteries we're talking here be recycled? |
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DeltaRed Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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Going back to horse and buggy might actually be a good thing...LOL First,ag production will go down by 50%. How much human food will be converted to horses?People will be starving,with nothing to eat. Overpopulation would be curtailed. All the fat lazy welfare people will have to work,instead of just sitting around.No more just sitting in front of the TV pushing a botton.the internet probably wouldn't exist. The welfare folks will have to work to eat.People will get back to reling on each other,as they used to. just think of all the horse poop that will be everywhere?LOL All the hand labor that will be needed? The possibilities or ramifications will be endless....... Good topic for discussion. |
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ireight Regular
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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The batteries used in those crazy electric cars, are lithium.
Lithium is mined as a rare earth. I'm not knowledgeable on rare earth mining but imagine that it take 10 tons of earth to get one pound of copper.
Lithium is worse, and the strongest areas to find lithium is africa, and afghanistan, mostly mined by slaves and slave children. I found a very interesting article about it last summer. But it is just another example of the hypocrisy of the left. |
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onefarmer Tractor Guru
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 4422 Location: St. Johns Mi
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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If co2 causes the problems they say it does, how do we stop making it? Pump oil/gas out of the earth and burn it, doesn't it introduce more co2? Time to go back to the 1800's and use horses. |
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tomtinker Regular
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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They say horse poop also has emissions.lol. |
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Ken Macfarlane Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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Hydrogen doesn?t have the same global warming potential and as mentioned lithium batteries don?t emit it.
They are working on some fancy carbon batteries that are much less environmentally damaging, 10 more years will offer more options in batteries. The nicads and ni-mh have fallen aside the last few years, so will lithium ion. |
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Mike M Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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They will just take the ATV and go right across your fields ! |
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9001ron Regular
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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The one and only way to save the planet is planed population reduction . This will never happen --- well unless nature does it on her own. China had the right idea for awhile but that is past now . Every body dealing in business is looking for growth and expansion . Here in Canada the population isn't growing fast enough for them so they are taking in immigrants at a whole sale pace . As it is 1 in 5 are recent immigrants and they are shooting for 1 in 3 .The only way that I can see us returning to the horse and buggy days is after a major calamity that kills off 90 % of the worlds population . Barring that scientists like Steven Halking and the such predict that the human race will suffer an total extinction in 200 or 300 years . After that the earth will recover over time . |
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Bobl1958 Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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Well, if we do revert back to horse and buggy, I at least have a head start..lol!
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jeffcat Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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Very handsome, the horses;) |
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rrlund Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Saveing the world. |
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I think there'll be a pandemic eventually that'll take a lot of lives don't you? Seems to happen every now and then when the population becomes too dense in any one place anyway. In the past it's been localized. The plague in Europe,small pox,the flu in 1918 that killed over 600,000 people. Trouble with localizing something now is that something like that can get on a plane and be around the world in a day.
Nature has a way of taking care of itself eventually. |
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