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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
Will a Perkins 4.236, 4.248, or 4.318 bolt up in a Super 90 (I heard the 4.318 will).
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
A4.318, yes. Will bolt right in but may need front oil pan horizontal hardware changed to studs/nuts, depends what pan is used. 236-248 will not fit as rear flange is nothing like the A4.300 and 318.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
Rear flange on the crankshaft, or?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
Super 90 engines bolt directly to the bell housing, no adapter plate.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
Rear block flange of the 300/318 is different from the 236/248 bolt pattern. Super 90 and 285-1085 transmissions clutch housing have two 5/8 NC bolts in the bottom, other smaller MF transmissions never used them.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
No adapter plate on 236/248 blocks either. Adapter plates were used on Perkins 152 three cylinder, 192, 203 four cylinder, 305, 354, and 372 six cylinder blocks used in MF applications.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
CVPost-Dieseltech wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:00:13 01/03/1Cool Rear block flange of the 300/318 is different from the 236/248 bolt pattern. Super 90 and 285-1085 transmissions clutch housing have two 5/8 NC bolts in the bottom, other smaller MF transmissions never used them.



Is the 236/248 bolt pattern exactly the same other than not having the two 5/8 NC bolts in the bottom.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
None are the same. 85-88-S90 use a slightly larger "bell" housing.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Super 90 engine swap Reply to specific post Reply with quote
A Super 90 is a hulk compared to a 175/180.
 
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