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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thinking about planting wheat this year and wondering what I should use for fertilizer. This will be on land that had corn last year and was hay for 20 years before with no fertilizer so its kinda run down. Soil ranges from gravely to heavier sandy clay. Just wondering what most of you use for fertilizer?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I recommend a soil test. Any suggestions will be a guess. Your local seed/fertilizer dealer will get it done for you.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

An answer from the seat of the pants will be marginal or wrong. Look at the soil conditions on the land. If it is fairly uniform in composition and drainage, one sample from the most typical place will do. Take the sample to your county extension service for analysis. Soils testing will provide accurate measurement of nutrients and micro nutrients needed to support the wheat. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That doesnt tell me whats required to grow wheat tho. I have a pretty good idea whats there which isn't much, but what will it take to grow it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

100 lb of N per acre for 40-50 bushels. Also depends what you are planning to do with the grain. If you short on N both yield and protein will be hurt. Some years protein loss will hurt more at the elevator than the yield loss. If for feed use it is not as critical.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the link, I was looking at that earlier. I thought those recomendations were for winter wheat and was wondering if spring wheat was the same.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As below, take some soil tests, and they will give you recommendations for wheat next year, and whatever crop you are following wheat with.

A lot depends on where you are located, and what type of wheat you are growing. Here in eastern WI, you can grow 100 bu wheat on 70 lbs of N pretty reliably.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Put on 250# of urea last year. Didn't rain till July and the wheat was planted in April. Made about 30 bushel to the acre....no wheat ever again. Takes more than fertilizer to get a good crop. 3-4 years ago it made 65 bpa and was worth $8.60, this year $4.80.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anything besides nitrogen like potash and phosphate?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ideal soil tests for wheat will be somewhat higher for P and to a lesser extent K than say corn. A lot of that is determined by the soil test. If this field was hayed for 20 years and no fertilizer applied, odds are it is low, and would respond to something.

Again, talking to an agronomist would be smart... preferably one who isn't going to sell you the fertilizer, and one in your neighborhood. That way he'll know what kind of wheat you are growing, the soil type, local management pratices, whether or not you are going to remove the straw. All of that plays into the decision.


Being this is probably winter wheat, you are going to want to put fertilizer down as soon as you can in the spring, so soil testing might be a challenge- the spreader should be rolling at or even before you want to soil test. You might want a "removal" number for wheat- how much P and K will the crop remove, and just apply that.

Last, wheat prices stink right now, so make sure if you need to spend money, you do it on the places that offer the most return. In today's farm economy, that might be "a return". Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

it dont take much to grow it... its what u want in the end result. basically more nitrogen equals higher yield along with the rest of ingredients like phosphorous and potash. as suggested,the soil sample will cover whats needed to grow for your end results. all depends on moisture and rain fall also.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For spring wheat. If you can spread a couple hundred pounds of potash now. Then spread a starter at planting, then topdress some nitrogen later would be about the optimum. Now Sow about 2-3 bushel per acre.
Wheat will use similar amounts of nutrients to corn just not as much. If you take the straw off you will remove quite a bit of the potash. Most of the nitrogen will come off with the grain.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jon make sure you have a market for your wheat. I had a crop get a blight in it. Local mill would not accept it. I wound up selling it for hog feed. I simply used phosphate and potash, don't put on too much nitrogen, wheat can grow too tall and have a tendency to go down on you. Will you be seeding hybred or the old fashioned type. I seeded some hybred when it first came out years ago. It did a little better than the regular seed and I never had blight with hybred seed. I always took the filler bars out of my combine when doing wheat.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My renter followed beans with wheat, The field had been limed and fertilized to test. The renter has two sons in the partnership. They applied no fertilizer at planting but on Dec 30 applied 45 60 60 I understand following beans adds 20 - 25 pounds N. I never question their judgment and they make me money every year for over 25 years
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How much fertilizer for wheat? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't know what seed to use yet. There is a market for wheat at a local miller. They are very particular about what they buy so I will have to ask them what they want. I know they only take spring wheat tho. I'm just considering alternatives to corn this year. I can do beans too, but don't have a bean head and have been having trouble finding one.
 
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