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Thomas(AB)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ok, bought a '17 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost/ ten speed engine in sept. it is legally rated at 12,500 the way mine is set up. it has no problem, hauling my Oliver Super 88 which is right at 5800$#s. it goes, and stops way better than my 3/4ton with the 7.3L.
i would not hesitate to haul the full 12,500 AS LONG as the trailer brakes worked. anything without brakes is just plain stupid.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

!/2 ton pickups transmission and brakes are not for pulling heavy loads a lot. Ford has a recall out for 30,000 2017 F150 with 6 speed
trans and 15,000 of the 2018 F150's with the 10 speed trans. I have used my GMC K1500 for 6 years and it is in now getting a remanufactured
trans and new bears in rear end and only has 74,000 miles on it.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="chucksoliver77"](quoted from post at 22:44:53 01/23/1Cool
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Actually it is rated to tow 13200 with the max tow and payload (over 3200lbs) and comes with the 9 3/4" rear gear set. This truck will have no problem towing and stopping a 6500lb. tractor and if this is all he is going to tow it would be crazy to by a bigger and more expensive truck, and you will not get 22mpg with any 3/4 ton gas truck, maybe 16mpg!! I have had 2 of these trucks with no problems.


That's nuts in my book.
I would tow that across town but on a longer distance trip....no effin way.
Tiny semi floater rear end, small frame, small brakes and a light truck towing 13k...what could go wrong?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Slightly off topic but I wonder why Ford won't put the 3.5 Ecoboost in a F250? I would think that would be a nice tow rig for us weekend big riggers. Heck you used to be able to get a 300 six in a F250/350.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Depending on what terrain you will cover. All flat ground and lower speeds, you will likely get by with a half ton. Hilly or mountains and highway speed is flirting with disaster. You can pull with about anything. A friend and I once hauled a John Deere 440 dozer on our single axle trailer with a CJ3A Jeep. Never was able to get out of low range.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The point was, that the rear axles on a 3/4 Ton carry NO Weight and still will be heavier than skinny Automobile Axles (Carrying the Weight)..

3/4 T..break an axle, you roll to a safe stop..
1/2 T..break an axle and probably Die or kill someone else...your choice..
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From what I've seen, the earlier 3.5 Ecoboost has a lot of timing chain issues. The little turbo charged V6 engines make impressive power and torque for the occasional user, but there is a reason they do not put them in a 3/4 ton truck. Because they will be shot in 50,000 miles because people use 3/4 ton trucks for more than driving to work and pulling a boat. Local bobcat dealer bought several ecoboosts, and did not keep them long. They do not hold up towing all day, every day. Even though they are within the manufacturer ratings.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I cant believe there aren't lawsuits going on. They don't advertise the truck as being able to tow that much on occasion. They imply it can do it 7 days a week 365 days a year.

We all know that's not the truth, or there wouldn't be "3/4 ton" trucks with full floater rear ends, beefy transmissions, cast iron motors with significantly less power, etc.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I hear you but it does not happen often enough to make it a concern. These trucks are rated to haul that weight hopefully talking about it does not jinx the operation. I wanted a 3/4 ton truck but no one offers a standard cab shortbed.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="PretendFarmer"

That's nuts in my book.
I would tow that across town but on a longer distance trip....no effin way.
Tiny semi floater rear end, small frame, small brakes and a light truck towing 13k...what could go wrong?[/quote] 2003 2500-3500 hd chevy rotor size front 12.8 in. rear 13 in, 2017 f150 front 13.8 in rear 13.7in hmmmmmmmm
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Right or wrong you see people doing it all the time. Its all personal preference and using common sense in the matter. Todays half ton is your everyday grocery getter with enough under the hood to put a smile on your face when u put your foot into it. In my opinion go with a 3/4 ton u will be much happier and peace of mind goes a long way when you have a trailer on hauling your tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You better hope you never snap a axle with a 1/2 ton pulling a trailer with tractor on it because you are going to go for one hell of a ride.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I sure wish you guys would stop focusing on breaking an axle. I'm well aware of what could happen if an axle breaks also well aware of what could happen if someone crosses the centerline or pulls out in front of me and all the other issues of hauling heavy loads. But honestly how many times have you heard of axles breaking and think about how many people doing the same thing.
Finally there are no 3/4 ton trucks available in standard cab short bed.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am not nearly as concerned about breaking an axle as I am blowing a rear tire, If you blow a rear tire in a curve at 55 MPH and pulling a loaded Gooseneck, I'd say the ballgame is about over. I'll Stick to my 3500. I like my dual rear wheels.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Half Ton Pickup pulling a tractor to the pull Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am saying from experience that a 1/2 ton truck is not cut out to pull a 6,000lb. tractor and trailer. My GMC K1500 4X4 with only 75,000 miles on it is in shop right now getting a new remanufactured trans and complete rear end rebuild ($5,600). The only heavy thing this truck hauled or pulled was tractors to 10 or 12 antique tractor shows and pulls a year. The truck was serviced every 3,000 miles and GM dealer contributed failure to pulling trailer and tractor. I am right now looking for a 1 ton or heavier to pull trailer from here on out.
 
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