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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello! I have been lurking this forum for a little while. I have been working on getting a 1952 Ford 8n up and running. I have gotten it running, but now I need to get it moving! The big problem I am having is the clutch is stuck. There is no tension in the pedal to release. Only about an inch at the bottom. Im not sure if this is a bigger internal problem as the pedal wont go back up on its own or if its the same problem everyone has been plagued with. To me it sounds like most people have tension on their pedal. I have check the linkage it is all good. Thanks for your help!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ONE possibility is that the T.O. bearing is rusted/gummed/stuff to the tube it slides one, an in the "release" position.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you for your suggestion. I will add that the clutch is not engaged. With it running it will grind when trying to put it into gear. There is a tiny bit of tension at the very bottom of the pedal but only like an inch or so.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like a linkage problem. Clevis on left side cracked, bolt sheared on throw out bearing fork?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The linkage is good, to check the bearing Id have to split it correct?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think you are meaning to say "the clutch isn't DISENGAGED"?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes sorry, disengaging the clutch will allow you to shift. Right now I cant shift it without trying to force it into gear and I dont want to do that.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can see pressure plate and internal linkage by removing the steering sector.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Adjust the linkage till you have at least three inches of pressure when pedal is depressed.

If it won't come back up the return springs on the throw out bearing collar could be broken or missing and or the tube rusted up bad.

I had a Toyota pickup truck that the clutch would not engage and the tube on it was corroded so bad the throw out bearing collar would not come back to engage the clutch. Had to remove the transmission and case to free it up and replaced the clutch while I was in there.
I have been a mechanic full time and am 82.5 years old and lucky me still have all my fingers and toes.

Zane
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok thank you!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok, thank you very much for your input. Also thanks for the experience!Im sure you have seen a lot.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dollar Bill wrote:
(quoted from post at 02:24:54 01/28/1Cool Sounds like a linkage problem. Clevis on left side cracked, bolt sheared on throw out bearing fork?


Its rare BUT would be the FIRST place I would look..

Clevis on left side cracked... Wink I understand it does he...
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry I couldn't see the quote. The linkage looks to be good, I checked underneath it as well. Everything looks intact on the outside.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote


"Have someone press the clutch pedal" while you are looking at the cleaves here.




You will not see a crack till you load the cleaves. If its cracked it will open up under a load Inspect all the linkage under a load. The cleaves is attached to the cross shaft with a pin the pin could be sheered. The clutch fork inside the bell housing is also attacked with a pin that can also sheer.

This is a 48 yours may differ but the same principle.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Clutch pedal has no tension Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks very much for the pictures! I will check tomorrow, I really appreciate all the help.
 
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