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Tall T
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

In the interest of full disclosure . . . Smile

I used heat on that Coulter collar first
but it is cold in the photo where I dribbling MP over it -- without brushing too just to show. But of course brushing speeds things up and saves MP.

This time, no heat so it's good example of actually dissolving unheated rust, gum or corrosion like in your engine.

It's half the drive shaft of my MF Rotary Cutter

 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

why would i give him info if i have none to give. he asked for info not your opinion of the N series. i hijacked nothing. to paraphrase: "why not spend a little more money and buy a real tractor" is your constant refrain regarding N's.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"why would i give him info if i have none to give."

You said a mouthful there Steve.

"why not spend a little more money and buy a real tractor" is your constant refrain regarding N's."


Maybe you should do a bit of boning up on your reading and comprehension skills.
What I have said here many times and will continue to say is if you buy an old N for say, $1200 then spend another $1500 rebuilding the engine and maybe another $1000 on this and that you'll have spent yourself into the realm of a decent running 600, 801, 2000, 3000, 4000 - all of which have more features than Ns.
Do you dispute that?
I try to explain to new guys that there's a price point where you can get a better tractor that gives you more bang for your buck - so don't over spend on this one.
If you think that is untruthful or bashing Ns so be it.
Lastly, if you think that bashing me for your mistaken perception that I'm bashing Ns will change my behavior, opinions or advice here you are fooling yourself.
It will cause me to change my opinion of you - make me esteem and heed you less but that's about all it will do.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote


RU, are you a Hokie? my daughter is. Congratulations on you N! above all be patient with her. Don't try towing as it is too easy to damage something. I think that the best way to nudge the motor is to jack one rear up, and every now and then just rock the wheel back and forth with the transmission in fourth. This method takes no time once you get it set up and it gives you a little inertia to make the bump a little more forceful.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote


RUHokie, Will your grandson be helping you get you tractor running?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i will remind you every time you bash an N. advice is one thing and you have given good stuff. your view on N's is opinion and make sure the next time you do it don't do it after the guy has his tractor. after all a fella may want an N because his grandfather or father or uncle had one or mebbe he just likes the N series as i did. someone who already has his N does not need you or anybody else to tell him he made a mistake.



i am done for now. see you at the next bashing.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Very Happy Very Happy Woohoo!! Very Happy Very Happy The motor is free!

After soaking overnight in PB Blaster, I put it in 2nd gear and gently rocked it back and forth. On the 3rd try, the fan pulley turned slightly. I put the Farmall Cub starter crank in the fan pulley and gave it a tug. It moved about a quarter turn. Another tug moved it half way, and the third tug let me make an entire revolution of the hand crank. I hooked a battery to it and spun it over a few times, enjoying a brief PB Blaster shower! Covering the spark plug holes with a rag, I spun it a couple more times. I got my compression tester and checked each cylinder...120 in #1,#2, and #4, and 95 in #3. Not too bad, right? Maybe once it's running, #3 will improve. Thanks to EVERYONE for the suggestions and advice. I really appreciate your kindness!

Now for another problem. After soaking the carb overnight in a bucket of carb cleaner, I disassembled the carb very carefully. Youtube was a big help with this procedure. The larger brass jet in the top of the carb was a bugger to remove, but persistence and PB Blaster finally paid off. However, when I tried to remove the recessed smaller jet in front of the large one, I destroyed the screwdriver slot. It is so very stuck, and the brass is so very soft! Can any of you gurus out there help me? I am open to suggestions. Is it possible to VERY CAREFULLY drill the soft brass out without ruining the cast iron? I have ordered a rebuild kit from ytmag, but I have to get that smaller jet out before I can replace it with the new one. Other than that, the carb is cleaning up pretty good. Man, that varnish/tar/goop is tough, but I am slowly scraping and dissolving and scraping and dissolving it all out.

Thanks again for all the help thus far!

RUHokie
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got excited to hear your engine broke free. If worse comes to worse. And you do have to drill out your jet. You could get a left hand drill bit. That way when you start drilling- MAYBE it will turn out. Harbor freight has them- I looked it up and theirs one 24miles away from Mills FL. good luck.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

RUHokie wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:42:29 02/21/1Cool Very Happy Very Happy Woohoo!! Very Happy Very Happy The motor is free!

After soaking overnight in PB Blaster, I put it in 2nd gear and gently rocked it back and forth. On the 3rd try, the fan pulley turned slightly. I put the Farmall Cub starter crank in the fan pulley and gave it a tug. It moved about a quarter turn. Another tug moved it half way, and the third tug let me make an entire revolution of the hand crank. I hooked a battery to it and spun it over a few times, enjoying a brief PB Blaster shower! Covering the spark plug holes with a rag, I spun it a couple more times. I got my compression tester and checked each cylinder...120 in #1,#2, and #4, and 95 in #3. Not too bad, right? Maybe once it's running, #3 will improve. Thanks to EVERYONE for the suggestions and advice. I really appreciate your kindness!

Now for another problem. After soaking the carb overnight in a bucket of carb cleaner, I disassembled the carb very carefully. Youtube was a big help with this procedure. The larger brass jet in the top of the carb was a bugger to remove, but persistence and PB Blaster finally paid off. However, when I tried to remove the recessed smaller jet in front of the large one, I destroyed the screwdriver slot. It is so very stuck, and the brass is so very soft! Can any of you gurus out there help me? I am open to suggestions. Is it possible to VERY CAREFULLY drill the soft brass out without ruining the cast iron? I have ordered a rebuild kit from ytmag, but I have to get that smaller jet out before I can replace it with the new one. Other than that, the carb is cleaning up pretty good. Man, that varnish/tar/goop is tough, but I am slowly scraping and dissolving and scraping and dissolving it all out.

Thanks again for all the help thus far!

RUHokie


If you an get the jet clean and the passage way is clean, leave it there. ethis the one you are talking about?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yep, that's the little bugger! Mine is recessed down in the cast about 3/32 of an inch, and is really tough to get to with any screwdriver of size. I was using a gunsmiths screwdriver when I screwed the pooch.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, fireball! I may have to go that way if I can't get the jet cleaned out!
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote


That is the idle jet, the thread size is 10/32.
good luck, the one inmy photo came out pretty easy.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Keep soaking the cylinders plenty while working on that other stuff. Every say or so give it a slow turn. Help free up the rings.. When you get it running, work it like a rented mule . THAT will help too.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! *Update* Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So, if I end up having to drill it out, what size drill bit should I use? Would a 5/16ths be appropriate or should I go smaller? Hand drill or drill press? I think drilling it out will be a last resort.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie with a new toy! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes Showcrop, I am indeed a Hokie! I bleed Orange and Maroon! I have been a Hokie since the early 1970's (Class of 1975) and even though I live in Florida, I still own season tickets to the football games and make it back to one or two each year. I'm sure your daughter is a fine lady since she is a Hokie Very Happy Smile
 
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